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Episode 307 – 10 household things people get seriously passionate about

Time for some fun. We’re going head to head. In life do you do this or do you do that? In this podcast we’re going to chat about 10 things people can get very very passionate about.
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Today we decided to have some fun, and we're going head to head in life. Do you do this? Or do you do that? In today's podcast, we're going to chat about the 10 things people can get very, very passionate about.

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You're listening to the declutter Apple podcast, bringing you tried and tested no nonsense tips and advice from the leading experts in decluttering, and organizing your home. Now, here are your hosts, Ingrid Jansen, and Lesley Spellman.

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Hello, and welcome, listeners. I'm Ingrid. And I'm Lesley. If you're new to the declutter hub podcast, you're so welcome. What you'll find is that we try and find a fun factor in the serious business of decluttering. And if you've been here for a while, you know exactly what we mean. So thank you so much for listening. If

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you'd like to get involved in conversations related to this podcast, it all takes place in our Facebook group. So come and join our lovely, warm, supportive community. To find the Facebook group go to declutter hub.com. Forward slash group to find out more, or you can search for the declutter hub community on Facebook. Lesley,

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I'm already laughing. And we haven't even started the podcast yet. I know which lifts. It's coming. And oh, my gosh, I think it's where we got to divide opinions in today's podcast.

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I know exactly. I'm really looking forward to it, we will let you know. Well, let's have a little bit of fun if this is your first time listening to the Deagle talk podcast. We're sorry, not sorry, because we do talk about sensible decluttering advice. But every now and again, we just want a little bit of fun, a little bit of lighthearted fun. So what we're going to talk about is yes, things that people get very, very passionate about. And we did have a list of like 30 things and we whittled it down. And we decided that perhaps we did need to go home related because it was a whole host of things on there that had nothing to do with decluttering. But maybe it needs to be home related. So we've got a list of things Halloween with where people feel very passionate about doing it one way or doing the other way. I know, we know what we think about it. Let's say we're going head to head to Ingrid.

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I know. And the first one is already Oh, I feel very passionate about this one. So number one is do you do your toilet roll the paper over? Or under? Oh my gosh, I have struggled.

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So I can go on. Tell us what your strong opinions are. And I'm going to tell you why. I think you've got strong opinions about Well,

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I definitely. Yeah, this is my opinion. toilet roll needs to be over. Over not under people. When you go somewhere like in a restaurant or something and the toilet roll is in the wrong place. I'm like, Oh, I gasp it has

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to get alive. Literally. I literally if you aren't like horrified by I would be horrified if there was no toilet roll. Yeah, okay. Oh, okay. But like if I went to a restaurant and the toilet roll was in the wrong place, and it was going under rather than over. I would not be like, Oh, Shaka.

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I want to I don't want to touch the wall Lesley. And when it's under the toilet roll, it touches the wall and do I want it to be I know the other it does touch the wall. But I don't know it for easy access to grab paper and to then be able to rip the paper off. It needs to be over. I mean, I know I have got a hospitality background. And I worked in hotels and they used to fold toilet paper in lovely little triangles. I'm not expecting that. I don't do that at home just to clarify, but it I don't know. It's so in my psyche in all the years working in hospitality that the toilet roll needs to be over and it's so much easier to get the paper and it rolls better.

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It does not roll better. It does not roll better. That's a complete lie. How does it roll better over than under

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because you can just pull it in instead

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of falling from underneath as well. Okay, if you're saying that you can touch the wall I can I can I can buy into that sort of germs situation that perhaps because the toilet roll that goes under would fall behind the toilet roll. So it's closer to the wall. Yeah. But I think we've got bigger problems. You know what to me? Wrong.

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What do you do? Would you have it over or under? Honestly,

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I wouldn't even know or care which way I put my toilet roll on. As long as they're sorted. But yeah, as long as the toilet roll, yeah, my big bulk buy would be when somebody else has gotten it and there's no toilet roll left, and then you go in there and there's no loo roll. Right? That's,

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that's worst. Yeah.

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It's interesting, really, because there are things aesthetically in my home that I am quite passionate about, as well. So it's not that I don't care. But that's something that I don't care about, which is unusual. Because I would be you know, moving, making sure that there's so it was facing forwards and all that kind of thing, but toilet roll is just maybe it's just not something that I've grown up with. I've not had that hospitality, I can completely 100% see it in your hospitality background. Does it aesthetically look nicer? If the toilet roll is over? Yes. But am I looking at that? Or looking at it in other people's homes? Absolutely not.

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Okay, shall I come clean? The No, Lesley, when I'm at somebody's house or somewhere and the toilet rolls the wrong way? I turned it around?

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Of course you do. But you do a lot of things, weirdly, literally overstep many times. But that's fine, just fine. I read it the way the way

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you read in the clothes shop, and there's like a shirt on the wrong thing. And you're good to go there. And I just put it back

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on too much time on your hands away from with you. Okay, I just these things, you know, but ironically, there are things you don't like, so somebody was coming to stay, I would definitely make sure that there's towels on the bed. So it's not that I don't have an attention to detail, but they're just some some things that I'm like, life's too short for that. Literally, life's too short. But anyway, get involved everybody social posts out this week on our social media, and we want you to answer the question, Are you a toilet roll over or under person? And why? Yeah, be passionate about it. England is passionate one way. I'm passionate the other way. So there are going to be many things coming out in our Facebook group and on our Facebook page this week and want you to get involved.

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Yeah. Let's just move on to number two, because we've got 10. So I'm already sweating. Lesley. Right. Number two. Okay. Do you rinse your plates before you put them in the dishwasher? So rinse the plates or not? What do you do Lesley?

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Do not rinse the plates. What do you do? Ingrid? I

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agree.

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We agree.

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I know. Of course, if you've got a big chunk of something left like potato or like, you don't want to put that in, you scrape off like the big chunks. But why would I rinse the plates on a hot rinse on in the sink? And then put it in an issue? The whole idea of a dishwasher is that you make dirty stuff clean. Now of course, I'm not going to have like a bunch of leftover foods and I don't know broccoli or something old chunks of broccoli in the dishwasher because they you have to clean the filters. But which you have to do anyway on a regular basis. But yeah, rinsing is overkill. Yeah,

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well, I think so. And I know I don't know for definite but there are like loads of things are like tick tock and Instagram about why you don't need to rinse the plate. So I think that you know, this podcast is all about what people feel, feel very passionate about it. And people just can't understand the other. Like, you can't understand why I don't care about the toilet roll. And I can't understand why you care so much. And it's the same with the dishwasher with the plates were insane or not people are like, but you have to so this is all about habit, right? This is what you've done habitually. And you just can't kind of comprehend that other people do things in a different way. Because you feel convinced that your way is the right way, which is why we're talking about it. But I believe that people say dishwashers are designed for you to not rinse the place. Yeah. And presumably that's why they have like filters in them. Because if Presumably, they wouldn't need filters, would they? If they didn't I mean, how often do you rinse your filters? I do it regularly. Yeah. Yeah. Once a week, at least.

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Maybe not once a week, but yeah, on a regular basis, at least I would say once a month or so twice a month. I will come with them out and go but even more importantly make sure you check your sprayer arms because there's people will check the filters but they never check the spray arms that kind of ways around if one or two or three holes are blocked, because you didn't scrape off your egg shells properly. Now there is something that is very important. Make sure you never do remnants of egg shells on your plates because those tiny little egg pieces block your holes in your rinsing arms and then your dishwasher can't clean properly. And then you get frustrated thinking but I'm putting it in to get it clean it comes out dirty. X shells is a main content contributors that I'm very passionate about this

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less the very passionate about egg shell script. It's

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true. It's really true because it It's so hard and it kind of almost calcifies and it gets really rock hard. And then the little holes get blocked and then you get in all sorts of trouble. And so

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presumably, there's been some you just taken off and you're putting water through it. Is that what Yeah, yeah. And find yourself poking holes. Yes.

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With a little toothpick. Right? If one is blocked, take a little toothpick, unblock the holes, your life will be changed because then your dishwasher suddenly works properly. Again.

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I've never I don't think I've ever had a neck shell stuck in my goods.

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Goods.

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Okay, on to number three, we feel passionate. I can feel like we're passionate all the time in the podcast. But this one is like super late. We're on overdrive, right? So let's move on to number three.

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Yes. Do you wear shoes in the house? Or not? And if you do wear them, Do you maybe only wear them downstairs? But on upstairs? Or kind of how does that work?

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anguish over to you tell me what you do? Talk.

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First of all, no shoes at all upstairs? And downstairs? Ideally not. But of course, I'm not going to ask a guest that comes in to take off their shoes. Or if I've got like a guy fixing my boiler or something, you know, then it's good. They can leave their shoes on. Or if we you know, we have kind of little outdoor shoes under the back of the door. But like, let's just say 95% It's this is a no Shoe House.

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So if someone was going upstairs in your house, would you tell him to take the shoes off? Yes. He would if they said we shall take his shoes off. Yeah. Do you take your shoes off when you go to a client's? Uh, no.

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But that's out of safety, Lesley. Okay, but if one of my client asks me to take my shoes off, and I do, yeah, but I've been with her for a very long time. And I know her house and I know, you know, but mainly out of safety. I don't take off my shoes. Yeah.

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So I sort of changed. And so one of my when I was so I agree like downstairs, everything's hard floors on purpose, not bothered one bit whether people have the shoes on. If people come into the house, if it's if it's winter, and there's you know, like and it's wet and muddy outside then for sure, they have to take the shoes off. And I very, very foolishly bought a carpet, which I thought was beige quite recently. And he's like, literally white hole stairs, London. When he went down, I was like, gosh, that's really very light compared to what I was expecting. Because up until that point, I'd kind of got one that was a little bit forgiving. Because when my kids were little, I was like, I can't move either like telling them all the time they need to take them off and stuff. And so I've become a kind of shoes off person. But my day limit is got I've got plantar fasciitis. And so I have to have shoes on all the time basically because otherwise it messes with my plantar feet. And so that's a bit tricky. And I also get ready upstairs and I like to get ready in my bedroom with the shoes on that I'm going to wear out. And so that's tricky as well because you've already put your shoes on free come downstairs. Do I say I'm a bit of a hybrid shoes on or off. And I might change my mind depending on the way the wind blows. And I think I've got to stage now with the white carpet where it's I go crazy at the kids but I leave mine on basically kind of like Do as I say not as I do sort of scenario. But yeah, that was all my fault for getting the most stupid, ridiculous carpet ever. Honestly, you've seen honestly, it's just what is the worst thing ever everything that I have been telling people not to do for years. From a design perspective. I completely flew out the water and I've got a white carpet that shows every bit of it and everybody's just a nightmare. But anyway, so yeah, so I'm kind of a hybrid person, huh?

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Yeah. Interestingly, I do have my Of course I've got shoes in my bedroom upstairs. But I will grab them and I will take them in my hand down and put them on downstairs. Right? I hardly ever ever put my shoes on in my bedroom when I get ready. It's that's funny. Anyway, okay, so that was number three. Let's move on to number four. When your clothes come out of the washing machine, do you put them in the dryer? Or do you put them on the washing line inside or outside like a drying rack or a washing line outside? What do you do? And why are we passionate about this? Actually, I am passionate about it. But why?

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I think people are probably I think people are passionate about passionate about it because a lot of people like the fresher feeling of washing and feel very passionate about that. I think people are very, I think it's I think people are passionate about the washing line scenario because of the environment because of the fresh air smell because of the feeling that put enclose on a washing line gives you it's quite a nice kind of feeling. And I think then you've got people like me who were a bit more lazy. Or I'm like, Yeah, I'll just put it in the dryer. And people feel very passionate about not putting clothes to the dryer. And as well, like I was gonna write your clothes, which I don't really subscribe to. I mean, there are a few things I've talked about in the dryer. Of course there are there are many things that are put in the dryer, my dryer, my washing, my laundry room is upstairs on purpose to not meet. So therefore, it's a bit of a pain to go all the way into the gardens put things down on a washing line. Honestly, I use my washing line once a year if that Yeah.

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Because just to clarify here, Lesley is definitely love lazy. But I think what she's trying to say is that it because her laundry room is on the top floor, she would have to go three lots of stairs down with her locked boss to actually put her line. And I think that's what she means. Just to clarify, because, you know, we don't want to say that people have a dry or lazy, that's why I'm gonna

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talk about myself. I'm not talking about other people. But I think there's it but there is people do different things in different countries as well. So humidity is going to play a part, bugs that are going to play a part where you live, is going to play a part in terms of what the environment creates outside time creates. There's all of the things that combine that a dryer is a lot more useful for a lot of people. But there's costs associated with the dryer. There's environmental reasons. And so I do think people do feel quite passionate about it or decide to do one thing or the other and feel quite committed to the one thing that I do. You're very commit, you've not got to try everyone good. Yes, you've not got a dryer and I would feel like I'd have my right arm cut off. If I didn't have a dry edge. You know what I mean? So, so I think it's interesting, but I do use my drain rack in my laundry room because I've got a content laundry room. It's a hot environment, and so my clothes dry on my inside dryer, right quite easily. I know people feel quite, you know, so I do think people feel quite passionate about doing one or the other. And I get it, I get it.

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Yeah, I mean, it's interesting, because maybe my mum never had a dryer. So I'm not used to that. I do love the so fluffy towels that a dryer gives you but I mean, I had when I lived in Ireland, we rented a house, which was a combination of washing and dryer in one machine. And I still hardly ever used to dry it because it just didn't occur to me to use it. And although in this house, I don't have a dryer, I couldn't make space for it if I'm really, really, really wanted it. But I'm like I'm just so used to my way. But of course not having a dryer does mean I have to be more on top with my earning because when even if you hang it outside, I don't care what people say if you get outside and blowing in the wind or putting it on, on a drying rack, it needs more ironing that when it's in the dryer, and you can easily take it out and hang it up. That you know that's a lot of difference in creases and things like that. So, but I can imagine that people you're kind of one one side or the other it you're either a dry

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erase, it's probably a habit thing as well, and what you've grown up with and what makes sense and what budget allows, you know, obviously, it's a big difference if you've got your dryer going twice a day, you know, every day of the week, you know, that's a big increase in electricity bills and stuff like that. And so there's there's different things really so so yeah, dryer or washing line lead less now. Yeah, Ingrid, we want for our mess, that we're gonna make this quick. Yes. One

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more for the break, in a sense. alessian advanced, we cannot talk about this for 15 minutes, because then people are gonna tune out of this podcast that we have got another five after the break. So let's go for number five, the clothes you have worn? Do you put them back in the wardrobe? Or not? So what do you do with half worn clothes? I think we actually have a whole podcast about it if you want to know the long version. But we of course had to include it in today's this or that podcast because Lesley and I do different things.

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Yes, we do do different things. And we're going to keep it brief and say if you really want to know all of the things about the half one, which is what they have become known as clothes, even though half one is a nonsensical term, just in itself. We have coined the phrase ourselves for some bizarre reason. And I'm like, if it's good enough to wear, it's good enough to go back in my wardrobe. And what's the difference between a jacket that you have worn that you would put in your wardrobe compared to a blouse that you wouldn't? So I'm I'm like putting it back in the wardrobe.

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I know you are and I have some clothes that I've only worn once and I think I can wear another two or three times. And I put them over my banister because it's something that my mom used to do. So I think I've just, you know, it's so funny how you only realize stuff later, right that you think, Oh, my mom used to do that. And she still does that, you know, she still has got a little rail somewhere where she hangs stuff over. But when I see one of those suit presses in, like if I ever do something remotely, that we used to be in hotels, mostly, but now they're kind of disappearing. But still, occasionally when I go to a client, I still see what I'm like, why they're having a suit press. And I'm doing the same thing on my little wardrobe or my banister where I put my half work clothes, but I'm incensed by the suit presses. So, I don't know, less leads. It's

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different. I think a suit press and a banister is different, right? A suit press is there to press a suit. I know it's not just you mean, like just the hang that you don't mean the ones where it actually presses the trousers where you just got this thing that you would put a jacket on, just

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know kind of the dresses, but they ended up being whole suppressed ropes and you can never compress actually a trouser because there's four jackets, six trousers, 12, ties, everything pair of boxer shorts flung in the middle. So they become kind of these exercise by drobe. Same idea, you know, they it's a lot,

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it is a lot. So in grid, we are going to leave it there we are going to direct people to Episode 132, where we talked about this at length and have been talking about it many, many times in lots of different types of content that we have created over the year. So if you want to know more about half one clothes, go for episode 132.

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So yes, let's go for a break. And we'll see you after for five more this or that things. Hi, everyone, welcome back to your this or that podcast, the 10 things people can get very passionate about and we are on number six. And number six is Do you can't? Or do you not the canned your food into containers.

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In the same way that I've changed on the shoes on or off situation. I have changed my mind about the canteen. But there's a very good reason for that. Because now I have a little bit more time than I used to have. So do I believe that D content is a good solution for some people? Absolutely. And it becomes more and more apparent as we go through life that it's really useful for people who live alone, because sometimes the the amount of stuff needs to be kept fresh and Dickinson is aware that you can do that over and above the packaging that things come in. So I think it's a really, really useful thing for many, many years, I did not discount anything because I didn't have the time the headspace or the desire to decant into fancy jars. Recently as my kids have got older and as my time is different, what I can allocate time to has become different. I have gone down a de counting route so now I do have lovely little glass jars that I use in my pantry for spices and pastures and noodles and stuff like that. So yeah, so I've become a quite kind of lady counting now do I think is better than having pack? It's not really looks nicer? It's just an aesthetic upgrade. Really? For me it's a it's an aesthetic upgrade, which I'm willing to put the time into which I wasn't willing for before. Yeah,

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that was my question. And needlessly because do you like it more now? Is it purely the aesthetic that you enjoy have it or are you like Well, yeah, I've kind of um the counting everything now but I wish I'd never had took this choice.

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Oh no, I'm definitely not against the D counting side of things. I think it looks nice but that's all it is for me. Yeah, it's just an aesthetic thing. Just I mean I don't think it serves any real practical purpose but I do you see that it serves a practical purpose you know people things like cereal for some people you know, if you get a bit you know, you want to buy a decent size cereal pack and that might take somebody who lives alone or a small number of people in the home like a month or six or eight weeks to go through just depends on how often you're using that and so that can be quite useful and you know for that kind of thing. But do I do I do kind of everything do I do Deacon things like soap powder and sweets and all that kind of stuff? No, but I do do some basic stuff and I do like it

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Okay interesting. Well at the moment I mean the I am not the canteen camp because it just doesn't even occur to me to do it. I probably knowing me I probably would be very good at it and because I'm quite meticulous and I would like it but it just never has occurred to me to do to do that and I don't mind you know, seeing my my books to send my packages because my pantry is quite orderly anyway. So yeah, it's for me It

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depends. You've got like a pullout load or haven't you if you've got like a big pullout one I'm

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no no no, but it's just I just I've got a big pantry but a big door so everything is cooked behind closed doors. I don't have stuff out. I don't have books out or packaging out. I think that's the difference as well. I think if you've got a lot of stuff out in your, on your counters, maybe possibly due to lack of space So whatever, then maybe it's more important for it to look nice. Well, for me, everything's behind the door, I can't see it, everything is quite neat and tidy and organized. So for me, I don't see the need for it. But maybe that will change at some point. But I think a lot of work I see on the on the socials, for example, a lot of work that goes into finding the perfect containers and making it all matchy matchy and all the perfect labels. And I don't want to spend that time on it at the moment. Yeah, it's

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a lot of I mean, when I decided to do it, I mean, it came about as a result of reconfiguring my kitchen, because I'd always wanted a pantry. So I think, you know, you kind of almost need that big, wide open space to really make the most of the aesthetic. And it costs a lot of money, because I had to them by like, I don't know, 3040 50, I think there's like 30 or 40 spices, you know, all those needs to be bought on the roll, you know, so it was hundreds of pounds to do it. And you've got to think about an overstock like, so what do you do with the stuff that will fit in the jars. So it's quite complex. And so basically, you need to be quite an organized meticulous person to maintain these systems. And so if you're more of a chaotic person, then perhaps the accountant is not for you. And you just need to keep things simple. You know, we're all about keeping things simple, keeping things real and understanding your own kind of habits and the way that you work. And so, you know, latterly it worked for me. And we can change, you know, at the end of the day, and things that we did in our 20s, and 30s. And things that we do in our 50s and 60s, are different because the different things make a take of the makeup of our family is different than makeup, our home is different. And so we can change over time. But you just need to be realistic in the moment and work out what that represents. Because it looks amazing. And sometimes people jump on the aesthetic without thinking about the reality of the maintenance of that. Yeah.

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Oh, well. sedulously. Let's move on to number seven. Do you put your glasses and cups and mugs up or down in your cupboards in your kitchen cupboards? And interestingly, one of my friends a while back, send me a whatsapp saying, You need to settle this debate between me and my daughter. Do you do your cups up or down in your in your cupboards? And I went, I do them up, but it doesn't really matter. In my opinion. She went, Oh, I think she expects me to choose her sides.

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Wait, why do we think this is because this is something that people so do, people could feel quite passionate about it. I think people would look at other people's cupboards to go, oh, that's strange. They've got their cups down. You know, like when we go to clients, I think the vast majority of people put them up to be fair, but I think there are people who put them down. And I think that often is about things like bugs and things going into course people feel a little bit paranoid about about stuff going into cups and things like that. But then equally, I think if you've got your room down in the cupboard, then your cupboards need to be meticulously clean, because otherwise you've got kind of dirt or whatever germs or whatever going on to the rim of your cup, which is what you're gonna drink out of. And so I think that's, you know, so it's never occurred to me to put them down. But I think he's just you just go with what you've seen? Probably, if that's where you what your parents did, then you probably just do that. But yeah, but we you know, obviously, if we're working with clients, then the client wants them down, and then we'll put them down. So yeah, and if you put them off, you can stack them a bit more easily. Yeah, I suppose you can stack them on top of each other if they're down as well. Yeah, yeah, that'd be a bit more tricky. I think

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the stacking doesn't really make a difference. It's interestingly, because if again, if I look back at hospitality, and all of the restaurants and bars and everything that I've worked in, almost always rims are down. Yeah, because of course, the volumes of glasses and cups and Macquaire is so much bigger. And sometimes they don't always go all the way through at the end. So it also has to do with dust and dirt and things like that. So that's why they've always put their names down. But at home where you probably have much lower volumes, things are behind closed doors, a lot of times in bars and restaurants. It's open so older staff can easily grasp things, but at home it's mainly behind closed door so you probably then for me, it doesn't matter. I I won't be like going oh my gosh, I've got everything approved. I've got everything down. I think it's like whatever you do make sense for you? And it doesn't but some people get really like, you know, passionate about it. And they're like, why are they doing that now? Exactly.

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So yeah, I'm a glasses up person.

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Yeah, me too. Next one. Do you have the lids on your plastic containers or the your Tupperware on or off? Wow. Yeah, people can very passionate about this.

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Yes. So cleaning grid on or off?

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Off by that is mainly due to a lack of space because we do a lot of kind of home freezing and things like that. And we do like big batches of souls or things like that. So we have quite a lot of plastic containers. And we do a lot of cooking. So we have a lot of different kitchen. Things. Thank goodness, I've got a big kitchen. Well, I mean, not a huge kitchen. But I've got a lot of cupboards let me rephrase it. And but still, I do not have a separate cupboard for only Tupperware or plastic containers. So it's kind of squeezed next to the mugs and everything else. So it has to be stacked, and the lids need to be off. But I can completely understand that people struggle with with lids and things and need to do things quickly or like I need to make sure that the lid is on the container. Yeah,

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I think it's interesting, isn't it? That's a really interesting debate. So for me, I'm an off person because like you, I've got quite a lot of Tupperware or plastic containers. But I think I would feel that if I had them stacked, which I also see the benefit of that because then you've got the whole container together. And they don't. I mean, we all know how plastic lids and Tupperware just lose their partners all the time, like they just disappearing down in the dishwasher drain hole, I don't know where to go when it goes somewhere. I think that it's nice to keep them together. Because then you know, you've got like container, but I think it takes up a lot of space, you can't stack them where you can stack them. But obviously you can stack a lot more. If the lids are off. I think it's because it I think it might get a little bit stale in the container if it's left for any amount of time. So I think it's gonna very much depend on how often you use these containers as to whether you want lids on or off. But for me, it's practicality. And it's all about space. And I mean, I have got a I've got a drawer actually for my plastic containers. It's completely full. But I've probably got a 2030 containers in there, you know, in a sort of smallish drawer. And I can do that because I've got lids off. Yeah,

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I agree. I agree. But I mean, I know we're not going to talk solutions here. But Tupperware or plastic containers, you really need to honor a couple of times per year, just make sure they find their partner, does the right lid go on the right container and just short it through because it's a bit like with socks, where do they go, they disappear. And then you have to find their friends. And it's the same with with with plastic containers and that will and then it also kind of gives you an opportunity to kind of go through it a little bit and kind of make it neat again, to make it easier for your future self to quickly grab a container again. So every single

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time I do it took away sorts. I have to throw the lids or bottoms away. Yeah, every time. Yeah. I never ever, ever manage to match them all up every time they'll do you know? I want to last mysteries, isn't it? Yeah.

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Because things you know, when you put them in the freezer, and if it's cheap plastic containers, then they kind of break and then you kind of defrost me like oh, that container is broken and you kind of throw away the container but the lid does end up in the dishwasher. You know things like that. So I think that's how it happens. It's interesting, the mystery of, of socks and Tupperware is has not yet been resolved by us. But we think we know why. Number nine, Lesley Oh, this is one as well. Do you make your bed immediately as soon as you step out of it? Or do you let your bed air for a while and make it later or maybe not make it at all?

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So where are you Ingrid? Definitely

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aired that person. Very important.

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And I am definitely make the bed as soon as I get out of it person that we disagree. Also do a tally and see what we agree on afterwards. But yeah, no, I'm just, I don't know, I'm gonna you know, I do. I do get out of the bed and go into the shower, get a shower, and then go back and make it so there is a probably Yeah, a 25 minute kind of before I make the bed. But I'm not leaving it. Because once I'm out of the bedroom, I'm not going back in that bedroom during the day until I go back to bed. And so it would either be done then or it would not be done at all. Do you leave your bed airing all day? Or do you? Alright, so your your, we should call it like almost like a but I bet you straighten it up. So when you say it's quite neat, right? Oh, yes. Yeah, exactly.

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So don't leave the duvet in the car for crumpled mess. Half on the floor on the bed. No, no, it's really neat and up. So I fold it open. So also the duvet can air as much as possible, and the mattress can air and then I open a window so I get fresh air flowing. And then but it's neat. It's not a crumpled mess because that would really like that would not I would not like that. So

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I think it's interesting, you know, because I spent quite a lot of time in Germany and Holland right when I was kind of in my teens and early 20s and I was always like, oh, what they do in and so I think do this use the column continental in England is called like continental quilts because I always used to refer to mainland Europe as the continent, right. And so they used to be called continental quilts. Did you did you know this? No. Yeah. So like, you know, like duvet as we call them. Now do this. Oh, yeah, we got a continental quilt. I think we were quite a bit like we used to have sheets and blankets all the time. Yeah. And then on to continental quilts. And so I went over to the continent in my youth. And then people would take these continental quilts. And like in Germany, in particular, they've got a lot of it and that Austrian stuff, we've got balconies outside their bedroom, and they would like throw their continental quilts over the side of the kind of banister almost. And so that was always quite interested in and I was just like, Oh, are they doing that? Aaron? I think we will probably still quilt some blankets, sorry, sheets or blankets? Maybe. But yeah, so that was the first time I saw the concepts of Aryan Aryan are Dubay out and I think that's still probably the case. And so you've probably grown up with that kind of concept of Aryan things out. I don't know why it's different in the UK. But I would say that's less prevalent in the UK than it is on the continent. Funny in it, but yeah, but that's the way it was cool. Back in the day, and you saw our island mentality of the Brits, honestly. But anyway, so. So yeah, so that's, that's it, but I'm definitely a leave it for 20 minutes and make the bed because if I don't do it, then I'm I'm I got I'm not going back in there to do it later. Yeah, yeah. Glad people leave it for pets and all kinds of things that I mean, it's very contentious than making the bed or air in the bed scenario, isn't it? People do feel very passionate and incensed by the idea that you should make your bed straightaway. Whereas I'm very passionate the other way because I think if you don't make it, then you're probably never gonna make it and the last thing I would want is to go into my bedroom at night and get into a bed that's not made. Yeah. Yeah, hi. Interpol's back I can I can

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need but neatly but I mean, I completely agree with you, Lesley. I mean, made bed looks very nice. You know, when I have a

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cushion person, I'd be like cushions and stuff when you know, yeah. So you're not you're not into as much into the aesthetic as I am. I mean, I've got you know, like things over the thing and cushions that are plump up and all that kind of stuff. So I couldn't

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I couldn't bear it. If I had to do that every day. I would absolutely just go crazy. I see people do it. I'm like, oh, it looks beautiful. That bet that I'm like how many pillows do you have to kind of shape or each every morning if the bull Emmeline walked in my sleeve whack them in the middle so they look nice and an evening? The only thing you do is take it all out? No, I can't deal but you

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can do the toilet roll over yet ridiculousness of the things that make us tick and the things that we feel really passionate about. You know, I mean, everyone's just different, right? So the cushions is not a big deal. It's literally like a 30 to 45 second job, but it's so worth it. Just saying. Yeah,

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yeah. Well, I'm glad it makes you happy. Let's see, I'm gonna move on to number 10. Another one another one. To Iren or not to iron that is iron, iron, iron, to iron or not to iron. That is the question. I can't see it

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we always have this every time we talk about AI and and and everybody was so disappointed if you said it in the right way.

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But do you iron or not Lesley?

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Yeah, of course I do. But I don't I in everything. I think we're the same with our own and yeah, I do. I think we you know, I probably you probably do more than me because you're drying out on the line. I can get away with a lot more because I use a dryer. But I you know, I can get away two weeks now without iron. And so this weekend is my only weekend sadly. And so I'll go up there and but I'll get the whole lot done in like, an hour and a half. In I mean, every two weeks. That's how much I'm gonna do but I'm quite fast. Yeah, because I'm not like super precise. I mean, I am I'm alright. I'm okay. But I'm not like amazing. Why is this not? Because I just like I'm like, as long as it say. I mean it is like nobody's looking at things and thinking that crumpled. But I do I spend like ages like doing all the cuffs and stuff on shirts a bit. But I'm a bit like, that's good enough. You're not I mean, I'm not really a perfectionist. I'm like, good enough. You know, it's fine. I was working in a corporate job, but like, he's not like, oh my god was it like was with the irony, not me. You know, and I've never had any complaints. And then my kids. My kids are like, nothing. You don't need to own anything of my mom. I'm like, literally, like you can't wear a linen shirt out that's not been ironed. It's just not you know what I mean? I'm like, but you can't wear that shirt out like that. Like.

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Exactly, exactly. I know it's I do. I'm like you I do about two hours I would say two and a half hours. hours every other week on ironing.

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It's a law I can understand why people don't want to do that. Yeah, like, but you quite like it. I do I like it. No, I don't like it really like I'm fine with it but I don't know some people find it very so therapeutic and stuff and just love it and they'll do all kinds of things socks and you know, we're there's a limit to us. We don't It was funny on this. So Ingrid did a thing on Instagram. Like a real didn't you about folding a fitted sheet so if you're not seeing it, you definitely need to go on Instagram and watch Ingrid's folded fitted sheet. Never had a thought on it. But the biggest of all the comments and it went viral. Right? And that's because England and not Ireland. She tried everyone was like, however, why he folded it when even if it weren't, and we're like, why would you I assure you that you're going to sleep on top of it. You know what I mean? We I don't I do very covers either. I just buy the right duvet. If it was, if it was one that looked crumpled up, I would but I specifically buy duvet covers that are fairly forgiving. Because I mean, that's a pain I in and duvet covers, like I've got superking bed, that would take that would take like 25 minutes, I ain't doing that.

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I've got indeed I've got to do vase that are ironing and you have to iron them because they're like Egyptian cotton and 100 threads something ridiculous. You have to iron and the rest of them like this bullet kids come on help me and which is folded and we kind of do it like that done. But you know what, Lesley, this podcast is coming out. My son has just left for university, right? He can cook he can do lots of stuff. And I've been telling him for weeks. I need to teach you how to iron because he loves all His shirts and his things they like sit you know, and I'm like you are so on your own. How are you going to do this, you don't know how to do this yet. So I'm just waiting for that I need an ironing board and an iron because I know how he is. So I've already said to him, you need to watch a YouTube video because you don't want to listen to me you don't want to you want don't want me to teach you how to iron you're on your own watch YouTube.

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They just don't do it. Honestly, the washing, you know, like sunset, we're not getting another there are many things that I've done, okay, as a parent, but teaching them to do washing and ironing is just like I look at them. I'm like, why are you putting black clothing with why it's like, honestly, you wait till he comes back from uni. And all of a sudden, all these beautiful white t shirts that you sent him with a gray. And you're like, why did you do that? Like, like, like, just to put everything in together? You can't put everything in together? Like what is it that you don't understand about not being able to put everything in together and then they want to keep everything I'm like that needs to go in the in the, you know, donation station. And they're like, No, it's my favorite t shirt with his favorite t shirt. Don't put it in with a black top. Do you wanna mean you've got all this to calm, you've got all this. I know, my kids are now on useless when it comes to washing so much so that I'm like, just I just want to do it myself because I can't even I can't even cope with them because they might get hold of something in mind. Then the next thing you know, Steve's got a t shirt or a thing that I would normally put on the thing and it's gone through the dryer and it's shrunk. And that's why I have to maintain control, honestly. And they're never going to learn how they so it's a bit of a situation. Yeah, so what did we agree on? Let's do a tally.

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So totally different on the toilet roll. Yeah, you're different. You don't care. I'm like over. We both don't want to rinse our plates. That's good. shoes on or off. We're kind of like

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ambiguous I say we're both ambiguous. Yeah.

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Your dryer I'm washing line. Were completely different about the clothes you put them into wardrobe. I do not use the cans. I don't they can't. We both are glasses and cups. Rims up. So that's interesting. We both are Tupperware lids off, you make the bed and I air it different. And aren't Ingrid the same. That's actually quite interesting. Yeah, it's not surprising

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and that Ingrid is why we are the perfect partnership. We agree on some things and disagree wholeheartedly on many.

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Christina says:

27 August 2024 at 3:03 PM

I am 100% Team Ingrid when it comes to toilet paper going OVER! I will switch from under to over every single time I see it. I'll "fix" it for you. I don't have any particular reasoning for this. This is a non-negotiable for me. It is completely irrational, and I own it.

The rest of this or that:
2. Shoes ok downstairs only.
3. Rinse dishes
4. Dryer or indoor drying rack
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6. I have a section in my wardrobe for half-worn clothes
7. Cups/Mugs upside down in my cupboard
8. Stack containers and matching lids next to them in the same drawer
9. Make my bed!
10. Iron as needed –

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1. Ingrid Jansen says:
  
  27 August 2024 at 3:11 PM
  
  Hi Christina,
  
  Thank you for letting us know and team Ingrid all the way hahaha. I own it too!
  
  Ingrid x
  
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