Episode 211 – How to create a calm bedroom

Getting a good night's sleep is arguably the most important thing we can do for our wellbeing. We need the right environment to encourage restful sleep. In this podcast we’re going to talk about the things you need to think about to create a calm bedroom.
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[00:00:00] Ingrid: Getting a good night's sleep is arguably the most important thing we can do for our own wellbeing. We need the right environment to encourage restful sleep. In today's podcast, we're going to talk about the things you need to think about to create a calm bedroom.

[00:00:20] Now, Leslie, we are going to talk about creating a calm bedroom. Now I have a calm bedroom, but I'm going to be honest here.

[00:00:30] I don't sleep enough. I should sleep more, I think. Me and everyone around me would be better if I, I would have maybe not half an hour longer every day. 

[00:00:42] Lesley: I mean, what's a good night's sleep for you? Then? Let's cut to the chase here. Let's talk about, um, 

[00:00:47] Ingrid: I think a good night's sleep would be eight hours, but I think I do about seven because I'm such a night owl and I just don't like going to bed in the evening because I'm just like, Relaxed and I, I'm, I'm still feeling good and because I've been so busy working the whole day, I like to sit just in front of the tele for a little while in the evening, and then I want to catch up on a couple of new things on my, on my phone, and then, Hmm, yeah.

[00:01:13] Going to bed. It's not one of the things I master very well. What time do you go to bed then? Too late, but it's normally, uh, half 11 before I go up. Right. Half 11. 

[00:01:25] Lesley: See, I'm more of a, I'm more of a kind of, Half, 10 to 11 girl, and then I sort of piddle around a little bit, so it's probably 11 to half 11 before I go to sleep.

[00:01:35] Yeah, I would consider a good, I would consider a brilliant night's sleep, eight hours, but I would consider seven hours. A good result. Mm-hmm. I mean, you know as well as I do, how many times am I started this computer at four 30 in the morning because I can't sleep. And so I just think might as well just go down and start working because I'm literally laying awake for like four hours.

[00:01:54] I've got better actually, but I was quite bad a few months ago. Yeah. But yeah, so we both got really calm bedrooms, but that's not helping our sleep. But if we can, if we can clock up seven or eight hours, then we're doing okay. So what we wanted to talk about was the kinds of things that you can do to create a calm bedroom in your home.

[00:02:12] Yeah. Um, we do have a calm bedroom. Well, that is what would be expected from two professional organisers, I hope. Yeah. But a lot of people that we work with don't have that calm of a bedroom, and we think it's super, super critical to get the bedroom right. Don't we? So we're going to talk about some simple things in the first instance, and then we're going to talk about some things that you maybe have not thought about.

[00:02:33] Ingrid: Yeah, because let's be realistic, uh, Leslie, although we might only get seven hours or seven and a half hours, those hours that we do get, we, we, they're good for us because we are in a, in a, in a calm bedroom. Right. I think the problem is, and I think I saw that somewhere, I think I was watching a TV property the other day and the lady said, I just don't feel rested.

[00:02:57] I don't feel well because my bedroom is such a mess and it's so chaotic here and I think it has a bigger impacts the stuff in our bedrooms that people think, and that's why doing, having a decluttered bedroom is, is quite high on our list of things that we really aim for with our clients, with our members.

[00:03:17] Because we know that once you sleep that little bit better, you feel that little bit more rested. Everything else just seems to fall in place, right? Because you can handle a little bit more. I. Yeah, 

[00:03:29] Lesley: so you need to prepare for a calm bedroom, don't you? By doing what we love, which is a daily reset. And so what a daily reset is you, are you going around your bedroom and you putting things in order.

[00:03:42] So that would include making your. Bed, which we're going to come back to in a minute. 'cause we know that this is a very contentious thing in the decal top every time we mention it. So we will come back to it and give it its own segment. So let's ignore the bed making for a minute, Ingrid. And let's talk about all the other things that we would do for a reset.

[00:03:58] So we're talking about opening the curtains, we're talking about letting a little bit of airing. So we're opening the windows. We're talking about picking up clothes off the floor that you have taken off the night before and hanging them up. Uh, we're talking about taking cups and all that kind of jazz out of the bedroom.

[00:04:13] That's the kind of thing that we're talking about with a daily reset. 

[00:04:16] Ingrid: Yeah. It's, you know, if you've got like a, a, a tissue because you have a bit of the sniffles, you know, throw it away in the bin, put your alarm clock in the place you want. If you've got some medication that you use, put it away in your bedside table.

[00:04:31] Do a bit of a general tidy up, because if you do that on a daily basis, it doesn't build up so much. Even too, you know, if you've got stacks and stacks of, of books next to your bedside table, you know, maybe they're all on the floor. They get, they topple over, put it all a bit more neatly. Again, it takes, honestly, it doesn't take that long, but it makes all the difference in just feeling already a bit calmer when you go to bed and when you wake up in the morning.

[00:05:00] So it's, it's both. 

[00:05:02] Lesley: It's quite interesting, you know, the book scenario. I mean, as you know, that I'm not, I mean, I do, I love audio books. I love podcasts. I'm more of a podcast person at the moment than a book person. But whenever I sort of, um, talk to people about books that were at the side of the book bed, if they've got like a stack of, I don't know, 10 books, they're like, well, I never quite know what I want to read when I go to bed.

[00:05:19] And I'm like, Surely you just read the carry on from where you left off last night. Do you know what I mean? Like to me, you carry on reading a book until it's finished or until you've decided that you're no longer going to read it. Can you imagine flitting? I can't imagine flitting from one type of book to another type of book, to another type of book, depending on my mood.

[00:05:37] Can you, is that just me? 

[00:05:39] Ingrid: Uh, I think that's you, Leslie, well, you from book to book? Uh, yeah. Do you 

[00:05:46] Lesley: like what? Like what kind 

[00:05:47] Ingrid: of books? Unless, unless I'm like, the thing is, I also do, I read kind of, I read lots of different things, so I don't only read novels. So if I'm reading a novel and the story grabs me, everything else gets put to the side and I keep reading the same thing after, after another.

[00:06:06] But I sometimes also read kind of, I, you know me, I read a lot of decluttering books and I read a lot of other things that I find interesting. So, Then I'm like, oh, oh, yeah, I, I kind of dip in and out more. So that's why I, I think also having a Kindle, I can dip in and out. I don't have like 50 books next to my bed.

[00:06:25] I've got like three, but I just, I, I think when a novel grabs me, I will read it in one go. But if I'm reading more businessy like books, I might read the one or two chapters and go, okay. And then I put it away for a while and then I think, oh, I want to read some more and then come back to it. See, 

[00:06:40] Lesley: I'm a, I'm a finisher.

[00:06:41] I'm a complete finisher. There's no way I could flip from one book to another. Do you know what I mean? I'd just have to like, that's it. Done. Red ticked off my list. Move away, put it away. So, so maybe I'm a little bit weird, but to be fair, I don't read many books at the moment, so That's fine. So, uh, books and podcasts for me is something that's going to put me to sleep because I like the, kind of like the noise of it all of an audio book or a, um, or a podcast.

[00:07:02] But anyway, we digress. Yeah. I didn't know the answer to that. So you learn something new every single day. But just going on from that, yes, of course you're going to obviously people, some people flip from book to book, can't understand it, but apparently that's the thing. But you don't need 10 or 15 books, do you?

[00:07:22] And that's what we find a lot of the time, is there are so many books inside of beds, so you do need to put things away as part of your reset is when you are finished reading one or decided that you no longer want to read it. Let's talk about making your bed every day because it is something that's quite contentious.

[00:07:38] We believe that you should make your bed, and by that we don't mean necessarily that you need to put the duvet over, put the pillows on, put the cushions on. If you making your bed means pulling the duvet back and leaving it to air for the day. That was perfect. That's not a problem. So we're not, um, saying you've got to make your bed in the traditional sense of the word, but what we're saying is you need to kind of smooth it over and make it look appealing to get into, am I right, Ingrid?

[00:08:05] Oh, 

[00:08:06] Ingrid: shadow. Absolutely. I mean, I, you know what? I'm sorry. I'm sidetracking again, Leslie, but if you ever watch like. On websites from estate agents of other people's houses, and they have a bedroom photo. The first thing I notice if the duvet is on wrong. Do you, do you notice that too? Yeah, of course. I'm like, it's like so crumpled.

[00:08:27] I'm like, could nobody just pull it a little bit tighter and neat? But I think that's kind of a leftover from my hotel base when I was like, Working in, in four and five star hotels and the bed is like such an important, um, uh, I mean, of course everything is important in a hotel room, the cleaning and the bathroom, but you want the bed to look really nice and, and tight and, and neat and, and, yeah.

[00:08:51] Because it makes you want to come in and go. If you come into a house and the dobe is all like toppled and crumpled over, I'm always like, oh my gosh, is there somebody still in there? Because you can't see, right? 

[00:09:03] Lesley: You expect, um, someone, if you were in a hotel, would you expect somebody to like pull it over and make the bed before the housekeeping people went 

[00:09:09] Ingrid: in?

[00:09:10] Say that 

[00:09:11] Lesley: again, Leslie? If you were in a, if you were the, when you were back in hotel Housekeeping. Yeah. Did you expect people who were in a hotel to make 

[00:09:19] Ingrid: the bed? No. Of course not. No, of course 

[00:09:22] Lesley: not. Oh my God, I will never make the bed. I'm like, dad, don't need to make the bed today. 

[00:09:29] Ingrid: No. When I'm like, when you're like, In other people's houses and you don't know sometimes, you know, if, if you're snooping in bedrooms, what's wrong with you?

[00:09:38] Whatcha doing? You're completely taking my words out of context anyway. Let's go back to the original query. Yes. A bed needs to be, it's nice to have a nice bed, whether it's completely beautiful with the pillows or if it's airing, but the duvet needs to be, I think, nice on, on a bed. It makes all the difference.

[00:09:59] It does. 

[00:09:59] Lesley: And so the two. I'm going to say reasons Yeah. Why people say they don't want to make the bed first thing in the morning is the airing situation. Yeah. And the other one that we get quite a lot is pets. Yes. Okay. Yes. And so a lot of people go, well my but my dog, oh, my cat is still on the bed now for me.

[00:10:21] I'm like, well, maybe you should move your dog or your cat off the bed, and then I'm sure they'll get back on again. Do you know what I mean? But maybe that's because I'm not an animal owner. What are you thinking with I, I feel like we're going to lose half the listenership 

[00:10:35] Ingrid: by saying that you need to 

[00:10:36] Lesley: move your dog or your cat, make your bed, and then let them get back on it.

[00:10:40] This could be very contentious. 

[00:10:42] Ingrid: I'm not saying anything about this, Leslie. I don't have a dog or a, or a cat, so I don't know what the right or wrong answer is on this one, so I'm, I'm not, I'd go 

[00:10:52] Lesley: so far as to say, even if your partner's in the bed and it is time to make the bed, it's like up, out bed, like, No, no way for people to lie in here anyway.

[00:11:02] We're never going to get to the end of this podcast if we're, if we, uh, carry on talking about things like that. So I think it's really important as part of those research, to take things like corpse and sauces and plates, if you've had a snack in your bed or anything like that, or empty wraps. If you've got other little midnight feast, take all of those things out of your bedroom and make it look nice.

[00:11:22] Ingrid: Right. Well, let's, I'm, I'm all like often and bothered now about this conversation. Leslie, let's go for a break and then hopefully it took some more sensible things after the break.

[00:11:34] Okay, everyone, thanks for coming back after this break. After I of us being, they didn't come back. The, the animal lovers 

[00:11:41] Lesley: didn't come back.

[00:11:42] Ingrid: We, no, they've literally switched off. Yeah. And they were like, what are you talking about? I can't listen to this. What do you mean moving my pet off the bed? Okay. Let's just go stop going off on tangents because people are probably wondering what's going on here. Anyway, we're talking about calm. Creating a calm bedroom.

[00:12:00] That's what we're talking about, Leslie, and we've kind of started to saying, do a reset, tidy up. What else can we do? 

[00:12:07] Lesley: We should be creating a calm podcast, but we're not. That much is true. 

[00:12:13] Ingrid: Okay, 

[00:12:14] Lesley: so first things first, we really need to think about whether or not the bed. Is right for the room. So part of a calm bedroom is having space to do what you need.

[00:12:24] And so we need, and this is where compromise comes in. I mean, I've got a super king sized bed, which I love beyond love. Have you got a big Beding grid? Yeah. Okay, so I love my super king bed. I can't even imagine getting in the bed with Steve in a double, in a standard. Like I just can't even, you know, if every I end up in a hotel where it's like, I'm like, oh gosh, 

[00:12:44] Ingrid: very close.

[00:12:45] That's too close. 

[00:12:47] Lesley: And so I love my big bed, but my room is big enough to take that bed. Quite often what we see, See is, is, is, is beds that are oversized or too large for the room that they're in. And what that then means is it's very tight spaces around the edges. That's your decision and that's your choice to make.

[00:13:03] But it's really, really important to think that through. So what are you going to compromise on? What are you going to lose if you have a super king or a queen, I think it's called in, uh, other parts of the world bed. Uh, and, and what's the gain if you sort of shrunk the bed down a little bit? Yeah. Very important to think about the 

[00:13:19] Ingrid: size of the bed.

[00:13:20] Completely agree, Leslie, because we see ab bedrooms crammed through the rafters with furniture. And then there's also like a, a, um, uh, a makeup table and they want to have a, a space for hanging clothes. A a just of drawers. They want to have a chair in there and it's like, but this room can't hold that much furniture, so something's got to give.

[00:13:43] For example, I don't have a chair in my bedroom because I wouldn't know where to put it. For me, a nice hanging wardrobe and a chest drawers is far more important than having a chair in my bedro bedroom where I would just probably dump stuff on. But for me, a also a big bed is, An absolute no-brainer. And that will be the first thing to go in.

[00:14:05] And then I'll go, okay, what other space have I got left? So I think it's all about compromising. You can't, if you need to be able to walk around a bed, and if it's a matter of squeezing yourself in and out of the bedroom because there's so much furniture. We see it a lot though with Leslie. A lot of people put.

[00:14:21] Too much furniture in rooms, not only the bedroom. 

[00:14:25] Lesley: And people get nervous. If people have typically had a lot of stuff, then they try and buy more storage to put it into, and actually what we need is less stuff and less furniture. 'cause that creates calm, 'cause it's a more visually, aesthetically appealing, um, space with less stuff.

[00:14:40] Ingrid: And, and we see that dongo with the members as soon as the members are into their decluttering journey with us and they're on the roadmap and they're, they're doing really well. And then all of a sudden it's like, I've decluttered a piece of furniture. We're like, woo, I, okay. We we're on the turning point here.

[00:14:55] There's furniture being decluttered now. It's really, that for me is always, I think, such an important part of the, of the, of their journey. When they start to really think about the flow in their rooms, the furniture they have, what works? Is it in the right place? Can it work better somewhere else, or wow.

[00:15:14] It's an actual just complete stand in the way piece of furniture. One of our members had something in her hallway and she suddenly realized, this is far too big for my hallway. It's a struggle to get in and out, and she decluttered it and it was tremendous. 

[00:15:30] Lesley: So removing either the size of the bed, so you know, shrinking down the size of the bed if that's possible.

[00:15:35] Obviously we can't all change our beds every week. That's not what I'm suggesting. But if you are investing in a new bed, really do consider that. Measure the space, make sure it's going to fit if you can decal to some furniture out your bedroom, if that's possible. That's something to think about as well. Uh, one of the other things I wanted to talk to you about, What do you think about ot?

[00:15:53] What, what we call in this country, ottoman beds. So beds that have got storage underneath them. It's not good from a feng shui perspective. So if you're a feng shui person that's bothered about that kind of thing, and that's what makes you tick, then there's definitely a movement, which is, you should not have, you should have a, a kind of a flow of air underneath your bed.

[00:16:13] So the same goes with like storage boxes under the bed, but ottoman beds can be really useful. What do we think about them? 

[00:16:19] Ingrid: For me personally, I mean, I always had a bed with nothing on the it. And when I bought a new bed, I actually bought a bed that you can pull up and you can put some stuff under it, but I was very, very critical of what I put under my bed.

[00:16:37] Ideally, if a house is big enough, I would say stay away from the ottoman beds. You will have enough storage in your house in cupboards and wardrobes and things. But what I, because I've got so many guests, Coming all the time that are then living on air beds and a spare bedroom and all of that. I needed a place where I could, I could put my duvets and some spare pillows without having to go up to my loft all the time.

[00:17:04] It was too much hard work. So that's why the reason I chose a more kind of ottoman bed, but, If you choose an ultimate bed, please really think about what you put in it and make sure it's really clean stuff, clean bedding or linens or duvets or things like that, and not lots of small clutter memorabilia and things like that, because, You're then sleeping on top of clutter.

[00:17:30] Well, I sleep on top of things that I use on a regular basis. I know exactly what's in there. I think that's the difference. But if you're struggling for space, which a lot of people are, your ultimate bed might be a crucial part of storage. You come missing your house. 

[00:17:45] Lesley: I mean, I'm just about to, I told you this before I came on this podcast.

[00:17:48] I'm, uh, redoing the bedroom in, um, the flat. We've got a flat in London as well. 'cause my husband works in London all week. And so we're swapping the second bedroom, which was a, a room for the kids. So it had like three single beds in it. And so we're, we're kind of where Steve and I are going to move into there, so we're going to put a new bed in there.

[00:18:04] And so I have opted for an Ottoman bed, but that's a flat. And so I do need the storage space in there. And so that I'm quite, you know, it's not something that I've ever had before, but I am quite. Excited by it. I think if you do utilize other storage under the bed, it can be really useful. But the same principles apply.

[00:18:21] Don't put shoes and memorabilia and tickets and sentimental items because even though this sounds really grim, um, actually a lot of dust mites and stuff like that fall through the bed. Onto the stuff that's underneath it. So you do need to be careful, you need to wrap things carefully, make sure there's a little bit of protection over it.

[00:18:38] So be careful if you are putting anything in into under bed storage. So we've talked about the bed, we've talked about the furniture, Ingrid. So let's talk about other things. So we need to create this calm space. So we've going to, we're obviously decluttering. We know that you've got to dec closes to your bedroom, but let's talk about most people, or many people have got clothes in their bedroom.

[00:19:00] So what can we do with the wardrobe, with the, the closet space that we've got in our bedroom to make it look a little bit more common than it did before? 

[00:19:09] Ingrid: Well, I think what's really important is that all the clothes go in the wardrobe, don't have stuff on the back of the door, don't have stuff on draped on a chair, somewhere on the floor, on a wardrobe.

[00:19:20] So if you're struggling with, with wardrobe space and hanging space, I. One of the things you might need to consider is to swap to velvet hangers. They're thinner, they're more streamlined. They, they, they take up a lot less space. Of course, for your jackets and bulky winter coats, you do want to keep them on a wooden hanger, but if you're like, okay, I need to get more into my wardrobe so it's not all out, then swapping to a velvet hanger might be the trick for you.

[00:19:49] That's going to help you create a bit more calmness. 

[00:19:52] Lesley: Yeah, so if you, if you, if you dunno what we're talking about, go to dcl hub.com/products and you'll see the velvet hangers that we use all the time. But I think as well as, as well as the. Being able to put things away. Aesthetically, it looks calmer rather than having a mishmash of hangers as well.

[00:20:10] Oh yeah. So it's about the, the visual, isn't it really? So when you open that wardrobe, it feels calmer 'cause everything is kind of uniform in there. So there's lots of benefits to velvet hangers, which we've spoken about many, many times before. 'cause we love our velvet hangers. Now we've already spoken about.

[00:20:25] Books, um, and your strangeness about flipping from book to booking Rich. Um, and so let's talk about bedside tables. 

[00:20:34] Ingrid: They can become a real dumping groundless. I mean, I think people also just because when they carry around something at night, at a bedroom and they just put it on the bedside table, and it's interesting a lot of times for people who.

[00:20:46] In our membership who tackle their bedside tables, they're like, I can't believe the stuff that's in there. How did it end up in my bedside table? Because it becomes a bit of a catchall, uh, drawer or, or, or, um, surface that would just put things on. And if you want to create some calmness in your bedroom, I think a, a nice clear bedside table with just maybe a clock and a lamp and maybe a tissue or a hand cream or something like that.

[00:21:14] That's it. You shouldn't have i's put seven books 

[00:21:16] Lesley: if you're Ingrid Jansen 

[00:21:20] Ingrid: three. Three, let's be that three. But I mean, I, it shouldn't be a dumping ground, you know what I mean? With lots of different stuff. I mean, people have loads of random things in are bedside tables. So one of the 

[00:21:32] Lesley: things that.

[00:21:34] Definitely detracts from a calm space in a bedroom is when people have things that don't belong in a bedroom. Now, I know sometimes it's tricky to do this, particularly when we're all working from home and things like that, but if at all possible, you should try not to have things that are work related in a bedroom, and that might even be laptops as well, even if it's not for work, just for yourself.

[00:21:55] It, you should encourage a kind of calm space where there's a, a boundary between that part of life and this part of life. Um, so. If you can get work stuff out of the bedroom, that's better. And that's going to help the calm, isn't 

[00:22:09] Ingrid: it? Oh, I think that, uh, I mean, people who really know a lot about this even say, take all of your electronics out of your bedroom.

[00:22:16] Don't even have your phone in there. Don't, don't have a TV in there. Really make a bedroom, a place to sleep, but tricky, tricky to do, especially if you have in the habit of. Picking up your phone and all of those things, but if you can, yes, please take the work out because work I think, already encroaches in so much of our time because we now have phones with work, emails and work things, and I think we get confronted by work so much.

[00:22:46] Well, it was much easier to have that. Divided up in, in the olden days, you know, because there was no technology to keep, you know, finding you everywhere you go, on the earth, on the planet. So I think really work hard to make that happen. If you're struggling with sleeping, if you're struggling with stress, I think having no work related items, papers, things that, documents that people take home to read, and all of those things, get them out of your bedroom.

[00:23:16] Lesley: Exactly. And, and also I think it's important as well. And again, tricky sometimes because if it's, if this is the only place you can put it, but you know, things like, um, gym equipment, all of those things, if we can do that elsewhere in the house, because we don't want to wake up to, well, I, I don't want to wake up to see a.

[00:23:35] Yoga ball or a stretching thing that's weighting me while I've just, my eyes have just popped open. Do you know what I mean? Sometimes it's the only place that you can put it, so it becomes quite tricky. And so these are all ideal scenarios. Of course they are. Do you know what I mean? But these are some of the things that we we, that we see when we're working with clients and members that detract from people getting a good night's sleep.

[00:23:58] Ingrid: Leslie, I'm going to aim to go to bed a little bit earlier. I bet you don't. You won't. I won't. Do you, why are you saying that? Why are you saying that? Because I really think it would benefit me, and I always have like this, this every, every couple of weeks I'm like, oh, Ingrid, come on, you need to go to bed earlier.

[00:24:16] Just, and, and I just fall back and I just, because there's so much to do, 

[00:24:22] Lesley: I fall asleep on the surf for quite a lot. I'm not going to lie. 

[00:24:26] Ingrid: Yeah, but you are like, I mean, you're like up at four 30 in the morning. I mean, if you would, if you would, you can email me all you want, Leslie, but nothing happens before nine o'clock in the morning.

[00:24:36] I know, I know. 

[00:24:36] Lesley: Exactly. Exactly. So yeah, I know what you are doing and when you're doing it. Right. Okay. So are we all calm? Are we feeling zen? Yes. 

[00:24:46] Ingrid: Yeah. Ah, you know what? If you just implement a couple of these things, honestly and don't go, you know, yeah. I'm going to do everything. Just start with one thing.

[00:24:54] Lesley: You know? I just imagine everybody going from a super king sized bed and chucking out the beds now and going for double. However, I be like, oh, we're costing people a lot of money. That's 

[00:25:01] Ingrid: not the, uh, well, I'm going to tell you one thing. I'm not changing my into a double, because that would not be good for me.

[00:25:08] Exactly. Exactly. 

[00:25:09] Lesley: I, I agree. I was just, Part of, part of going through life that isn't it moving into a super king bed when you get to a certain age. That's why I think, 

[00:25:17] Ingrid: anyway, so yes, don't take glasses advice and completely swap your bed around. Maybe there are other options, but tell us in the comments, in the show notes, what are you going to do?

[00:25:26] If you're going to go to declutter help.com/two 11, then you can put your comments in, tell us what has inspired you. Are you going to change one of your habits? Have you been thinking about? Wow. Yes, I do have furniture in my bedroom that I possibly need to shift around a little bit or maybe shift out of my house even.

[00:25:46] We would love to know. Tell us please. Um, thanks for being here, for listening. Next week we're talking to. Our frugal French, Jen and Jill, all about frugality. I love it. I'm so excited about it. Yeah, you, you'll 

[00:26:00] Lesley: love that. You'll love frugality 'cause you're really frugal. Anyway, I, the dominant I know. I'm really excited.

[00:26:07] Frugal. 

[00:26:08] Ingrid: I'm really excited about it. I'm kind, I'm not going to lie. So, yes, frugality. Ooh, I'm, I'm, I'm want to know more. So thanks for being here and we'll see you next time.
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Christie says:

18 October 2022 at 9:08 AM

Lesley I usually have about 8 books on the go (plus perhaps a notebook, journal and study materials). I like to have a choice when I go to bed or wake up, depending on my mood! The downside is, quite often I re-read the same pages so they take forever to finish!

I am definitely a starter not a finisher (which may be part of the problem lol!)

Current pile
Mind the Gap – Dr Karen Gurney
Finding the mother tree – Suzanne Simmard
Klara and the sun – kazuo Ishiguro
The plant rescuer – Sarah gerrard-jones
The subtle art of not giving a f*ck – Mark Manson
Hell Bay – Sam Llewelyn
Penelope Lively – life in The garden
Meaty – Samantha Irby

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1. Ingrid Jansen says:
  
  18 October 2022 at 12:38 PM
  
  Thank you for sharing Christie. I don't know how many I have on the go at the moment since I have a kindle with several books on them, but I just started "Photo organizing made simple" by Cathi Nelson. I don't have notebooks or journals next to my bed though.
  
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