Episode 207 – How to Declutter and Organise your porch

A porch is the first thing you see when you come home or when someone visits so it’s important that it’s neat, tidy and clutter free to create that great first impression. In this podcast we chat about how to achieve that kerb appeal by decluttering and organizing your porch.
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[00:00:00] Ingrid: A porch is the first thing you see when you come home or when someone visits. So it's important that it's neat, tidy, and clutter-free to create that great first impression. In this podcast, we chat about how to achieve that curb appeal by the cluttering and organising your porch.

[00:00:20] So Lesley, interesting one, decluttering your porch. We're going to talk about now a porch. We need, I think we need to talk about what a porch is first, because a porch is different here in the UK than it is in the us.

[00:00:36] I mean, when I lived in the US I actually thought, I love a porch. I want to have a porch like this. And then I came to the UK and I was like, porches are tiny. This is not the porch I had in mind in my head when I was going to rent a house. 

[00:00:51] Lesley: I know you just have, we just have that vision, don't we have a porch?

[00:00:54] And you know, certainly in, in, um, in America being that, you know, rocking chair on the porch in the deep south where you know, nice, you know, a nice thing to and chill and go in the nice sunshine. Now here it's more of an entryway to a house. Now, I'm not saying there are not houses in the UK with big porches, 'cause there absolutely will be.

[00:01:14] But for the most part, porches are little. Entrance ways to houses. So a porch in this country is probably two or three foot by two or three foot, isn't it? Ingrid? Whereas a porch in the states for, and that's what we know about 'cause we've not been to Australia or New Zealand or Canada, or any of the old, lovely places in the world.

[00:01:36] Might wrap around 360 degrees around the whole house. You know what I mean? Right. A porch is different things to different people, but basically is an outside space, which normally is the entryway to your home, and that's why it's important to get it right for yourself and for your guests as well. That's what we're going to talk about today.

[00:01:54] Now I do believe, Ingrid that. A porch may or might be wrong, did a little bit of Googling. 'cause I'm like, we can't just call it one thing and, and leave out half the world. And so I believe that it may be called a veranda in Australia and New Zealand instead of a porch. It sounds 

[00:02:09] Ingrid: so appealing. Veranda, if I heard the word veranda, I think about the south of France in like a, a nice afternoon in my rocking chair with a nice cocktail.

[00:02:23] Watching the sun go down. That's what I think of when I think about the word porch as well. I'm thinking about a stretch of grass in front of my house with kids on bicycles. Am I just being slow? Totally delusional, obviously. No, no. I think that's amazing. I think that's 

[00:02:38] Lesley: amazing. But we might have a little bit of decluttering and organising to do before we start sitting down and having the cocktail at sunset.

[00:02:46] Yeah. So let's talk about how to make our porches over around us. That barand a porch of your dreams. Ingrid. I 

[00:02:54] Ingrid: know Lesley. It, it's so, it's so nice. And on a little side, so let me tell you this. So when I lived in America with a host family back in the nineties, they said, yeah, yeah, yeah, we have, um, my dad has a little house in the country.

[00:03:08] And I, of course, me being completely no idea how, what you mean with a little house in the country. It was actually a complete like, A big house with a porch and it had screens. I mean, I was like, why is there screens in there? And it's like, because we're in the middle of a forest and there's like bugs and stuff flying around.

[00:03:31] So at night you can still sit out in the porch. This was my first thing of porches, and ever since I've been dreaming about a porch. But yes. Well, 

[00:03:40] Lesley: tell us, do they have porches in Holland? 

[00:03:45] Ingrid: I don't think I've ever seen a house with a porch. No. Like a little hallway. Yes. Like UK style where you come in through the front door, you hang up your coat, you flunk some shoes down, and then you go into the house.

[00:03:59] But like a porch in my dreams that I'm describing, like. When I watched, do you remember that, that show with, um, about the deep south, oh, what's it called? North and South, and you had all these beautiful like villas on a stage where you can, where there's always, they were having drinks in the porches. This is what I'm envisioning here.

[00:04:21] I'm, I'm probably completely like going, people are 

[00:04:23] Lesley: going. Fair to be fairing with? I think people do, 'cause I, I lived in New Jersey that's not the deep south. And so, and there were still porches in New Jersey, so maybe it's not just the deep south. Maybe that's just what we see on films. Yeah. But is Georgia classed as the deep south?

[00:04:36] 'cause that's where you, you went, isn't it Georgia? Is that the deep south? Is it? Yeah. I dunno whether it's deep enough. I dunno. Far enough. I dunno. When it gets deep, deep south, some of America needs to tell us anyway. We procrastinate, I'm 

[00:04:48] Ingrid: dreaming. 

[00:04:48] Lesley: I'm, we're dream for half an hour of having a porch and a cocktail.

[00:04:52] But actually what we've got to do, we've got to get down to the nitty gritty of making this look nice. Whether it's a wraparound porch or whether it's a tiny little thing, the bottom line is the types of things that you see. Yeah. You might not have a cocktail in a porch in the uk, are we? Am I right? 

[00:05:10] Ingrid: Yeah.

[00:05:11] Can you imagine? 

[00:05:12] Lesley: You want past people with it? You're going completely bonkers if you sat there with your gin and 

[00:05:17] Ingrid: tonic in the No. Like on a, on a bar stool in your porch. Looking at your coats. Exactly right. Okay. Okay. Let's calm down a little bit because I think what the thing is, Lesley, what we wanted to talk about is that.

[00:05:33] These places can become through dumping grounds of stuff because you come up to your house, you unload your car, you come maybe from work or volunteering or running the kids to school or whatever it is that you do. There's always stuff and we just kind of dump it there. And one thing leads to another couple of bits being dumped, and before you know it, it really looks unsightly.

[00:05:55] But the thing is a porch, whether it's a beautiful wraparound one, a tiny one, or a UK post stem size one, it, it's the first thing you see when you come home, whether you walk, drive, cycle up, you walk up to your house, the first thing you see is your porch. And if it's a mess, it's like, oh, you know, you just, it's very depressing.

[00:06:18] Lesley: It is. So let's get down to the nitty gritty. Okay. First things first. The most important thing with anything in your house, actually, but particularly in a porch, is safety. We need to make sure that we're not going to trip into our house by tripping over a door map that's dodgy. So make sure that you've got good lighting in your porch.

[00:06:36] Make sure you've got a door map that is not going to trip you up. So safety is absolutely paramount. And that goes without saying whether that's a little po or whether that's a huge poche. Get that bit right? 'cause sometimes over time these things, the, the, the doormat does start to curl up and the light bulb goes and it's not like, oh, you know, I'm just going to bob out and do that.

[00:06:55] It's a bit of a faff, isn't it? To change a light bulb in a porch, you know what I mean? It's not an easy job. And so sometimes it gets left and all of those things are going to be important for safety and they are, are going to be important for curb appeal. Yes. 

[00:07:08] Ingrid: Talking about safety, Lesley, I also think it's important to.

[00:07:13] Check your locks. I know it is going to, I'm going off on a tangent here, but I've just suddenly realized, think about safety. Are your locks still working properly? Is it, can your door close properly? Do you need to put an extra, a latch on? Or, you know, things like that. It's, it's these things that we don't think about, but when you're looking at your porch and you're tidying it up, maybe now's the time to also look at these kinds of bits.

[00:07:37] You know, 

[00:07:38] Lesley: you mentioned they're Ingrid about your door opening, and so I think it's really important as well, and this is going to be in houses that are a little bit more full, uh, but quite often the front door doesn't open fully. And I think one of the things that you need to be able to do is open your door up fully, um, so that somebody knocks on.

[00:07:54] So you don't feel as if, if someone's trying to come in, that they're not trying to kind of squeeze their way in. So you don't feel embarrassed. 'cause that's the first thing that people are going to sit, oh, like you, she was kind of peering around the door or he was peering around the door. And so do try and make sure that those, those, um, passages behind your front door, in front of your front door are clear of kind of day debris, of clutter, of paperwork, of shoes, of coats, and all the things that we're going to talk about later.

[00:08:20] So it's really important to make sure that your front door. Opens 

[00:08:25] Ingrid: fully. Yes. And I think it's not always even stuff that hangs on the back of doors, it's also stuff that is kind of behind the door propped between the door and the wall and things get put and stacked on top of it, and then it gets really, I.

[00:08:40] Hard work, doesn't it? Even when you come in with a bag of shopping or something, if you can't open your front door fully and you have to kind of squeeze yourself in with lots of bags in your hands, it gets hard work. And I think every time when something is hard work, it costs a lots of energy and we have all limited energy that we can use up throughout the day.

[00:09:00] And I think things like this can really drain the energy. 

[00:09:04] Lesley: They can, I think it's important as well to make sure that you've got some kind of, it's not necessarily that your doorbell works, although that is useful to be fair, but it's important that it is clear to the person who knocks on your door how they're supposed to get your attention.

[00:09:18] So sometimes you go, there might be one doorbell with another doorbell underneath because they've not taken the doorbell off that no longer works, and they replaced it with a different one, like a wireless one or something. Or then there might be a knocker. And so when you go, you are like, there's a knocker there.

[00:09:31] There's two doorbells. Which 1:00 AM I supposed to ring? Is it clear? 'cause then the person doesn't want to ring on both doorbells and knock at the same time. 'cause then that seems like overkill and it seems like you're being annoying. And so I think it's really important to make it clear if you do have a problem with your doorbell, make that clear to the person, this is the doorbell that you need to use.

[00:09:51] Um, or remove an old one if it's. Broken and things like that. So do make sure the batteries are in your doorbell and people can gain entry that need to, 'cause that's going to cause you, that's going to save you a lot of bother, isn't it, in terms of people turning up and then they wanted to drop a parcel and you weren't in, or they thought that you weren't in even though you were in, and then that's really annoying.

[00:10:10] So simple things that make, um, your front door, your porch work better for you. Yeah, 

[00:10:17] Ingrid: it's so funny, Lesley. I, I actually occasionally check my doorbell. I can ring my own doorbell just to make sure it's still working. That sounds a bit crazy, but. Sometimes you have to, you don't press it firmly enough and it's like, did my doorbell?

[00:10:32] You hear somebody like knocking on back, boning on the door, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, I rang your doorbell but nothing happened and they really want to kind of drop something off. So I hear you completely. So if I look like a loony, I. Uh, knocking, calling, ringing my own doorbell. It's just because I'm checking my doorbell if it's still working.

[00:10:50] It's one of the 

[00:10:51] Lesley: many, one of the many reasons why it would look like a looney if we're truly honest, but yeah. Um, so I wanted to talk a little bit about stickers as well because there's quite a lot. Some people love a sticker and so some people love like, please don't knock at my door and give me junk mail 'cause I really don't want it.

[00:11:09] So you've got those stickers which say, I'm not, I don't want any unsolicited mail. Then you've got stickers that people might put political stickers in there. People might put religious stickers in there and posters, those kind of things. People might put little stickers and notes on like, oh, I'm not in, come round the back, or, um, drop the parcel off at my neighbors or whatever.

[00:11:30] So people put temporary stickers on there and notes as well. Do make sure this is all about decluttering, really, to make sure it looks really nice. Get rid of the excess if you no longer want, you know, if that was a political, uh, what do you call a poster from a few campaigns ago and that's gone, then get rid of that and move it and move it on, and then it'll be ready for the next time you want to put something off.

[00:11:52] So keep on top of those stickers. It's really, really important to keep it nice and tied it and fresh and current. 

[00:11:59] Ingrid: Yes. And I think also, I mean, we're going to talk about cleaning as well a little bit, but it, the same goes for the, for the door and for the window. You know, you, it needs to look appealing.

[00:12:09] You know, I think the, the cleaner and ti it looks, the more welcoming it looks for people to come and knock on your door. Yeah, 

[00:12:18] Lesley: and I think just to finish this sort of section off, I think it really is, this is all about curb appeal, isn't it? And as you said right at the beginning, this is not just about guests.

[00:12:27] This is about you coming home from a busy day, from whatever you've done, and being happy to walk through your porch into your front door. It's so important for your own wellbeing and positivity when you enter your house, isn't it? Ingrid? Yeah, 

[00:12:41] Ingrid: definitely. So Lesley, let's take a break and then after the break, let's talk a little bit about things we can declutter.

[00:12:48] Hi, everyone. Welcome back to this podcast all about decluttering your porch.

[00:12:54] Now, before the break, we talked a lot about curb appeal and what actually a porch is, and if it's a ferrando or a porch. We've had some nice discussions about that already, but now it's time to talk about decluttering. What kind of stuff do we find in porches around the world that we can declutter, Lesley?

[00:13:13] I 

[00:13:14] Lesley: think it's fair to say our little mini porches that we have here in the uk, like tardis, and I think that the huge porches that they have elsewhere in the world, they've still got the same kind of stuff in them. They might just have a little bit more of, or it might be a little bit more spread out. So let's talk about shoes and wellies and outdoor shoes and boots and all those kind of things first.

[00:13:33] Ingrid? 

[00:13:33] Ingrid: Yes, uh, always, you know, you come into the house, some people do not take issues off. Other people do. But I can guarantee you each, nearly every house I've ever come into has shoes behind the front door, in the porch, whatever, whatever it might be. There are some shoes there without a shadow of doubt.

[00:13:52] Lesley: So let's keep them, let's keep them to a minimum. Let's make sure that the ones that are there are definitely outdoor shoes that we are using to go in and out. Don't just have random shoes. If these are shoes that can be in the house, bring them into the house. So the shoes that you need to have on that porch of veranda are really just the ones that are very dirty or that are used every day.

[00:14:10] For you to go out in. I think it's useful as well for you to have something to put them on. So nothing too complicated, but maybe some kind of shoe rack if you've got a little bit more space or if you just want to keep it super simple, you can use a a truck, which is a kind of plastic container or a wicker basket or whatever that you can just kind of throw the shoes in and then rummage around.

[00:14:32] Whatever it is, keep those shoes containerized on a shoe rack. Or into a container so that they look nice and neat and they look like they should be 

[00:14:40] Ingrid: there. Also, Lesley, if you have Wellies and a lot of people, especially in the uk, we, we have Wellies because it. Rains on a very regular basis, but that doesn't mean we wear ye wellies all year round.

[00:14:54] So if it's the height of summer and 31 degrees, wellies really should not be in your porch. If they're muddy, just take 'em to your kitchen or utility room. Clean them up and put them away for when the time is right, when the season is a, a welly season, or when it's super cold and there's snow and you're not going to wear wellies.

[00:15:14] Same thing. So make sure that these things don't keep lingering in porches. Same goes for outdoor shoes. If you have got a pair of shoes that you walk around in the garden, in the garage all the time, just not have, don't have six different pairs, have one or two at the ready. You don't need that many. See if you can declutter some of those.

[00:15:36] Lesley: Same principle for coats as welling, grid, raincoats, winter coats, outdoor coats, scarves, hats, gloves. These are all the types of things that we see in porches. You need to keep on top of these things and do regular declutters, an organisation of these to make sure that they are not overwhelming your space and making that entryway into your, um, house kind of cluttered.

[00:15:57] That's what we're trying to avoid, isn't it? Yeah. 

[00:16:00] Ingrid: Uh, same goes for umbrellas. I mean, they, we need a lot of them here in the uk, let's be honest. Um, yeah. But umbrellas, rain gear, backpacks, uh, swimming bags from, from, from sports activities, it all gets dumped into the porch. Yeah, think 

[00:16:18] Lesley: about those hooks as well, similar to the way that you would in a hallway.

[00:16:23] Can you get some hooks to hang these type of things up so they're not just kind of left on the floor? Have you got enough hooks or could you have more? You can almost never have enough hooks for coats and the le the, the more hooks you have, the less coats have to hang on each hook, and it always looks a little bit neater.

[00:16:38] So really think about that. The porch is a very, very neglected area of a lot of homes that people don't think about, so that's why we're trying to urge you to think about it. Today. Yeah. I want to talk about as well. Mail and parcels. Now, the way that we get our mail is different all around the world. A lot of people have got post boxes at the ends of driveways and gardens, but typically in the uk, um, mail and parcels get posted through the door or left in porches, and so we want to make sure that you're on top of that.

[00:17:09] Don't leave people. What people do is they pick up the mail that. Looks like it's solicited mail and leave all the junk mail behind in the porch. Don't leave all those pizza kind of leaflet sounds, things that you don't want, and junk mail. Don't leave that in the porch. Bring it in and recycle it immediately.

[00:17:27] If it's not something that you want, it's better that it goes straight into the recycling, then sits in your porch. 'cause then your porch just looks like a rubbish dump. And that's not what we want. So keep on top of parcels and paperwork and mail and junk 

[00:17:41] Ingrid: mail. Yes. Good one, Lesley. I completely agree because I find boxes and boxes all stacked on top of each other.

[00:17:48] It's like, oh, wow. Did it Welcome to come today. Oh, no, it's been here for six for, for about six days. I'm like, oh, I, I, I think I would be like too nosy to know what's in there to kind of leave it in my porch. So yes, do that on a daily basis. Don't let that all build up. It'll save you a lot of work later.

[00:18:06] Lesley: Absolutely. Now, if you are lucky enough to have. A porch that's bigger than three foot square, um, like we have here in the uk and you can sit out on your veranda porch and have a cocktail at Sunset. Um, that would be lovely. But we really need to look at that furniture and look and make sure you've not got too much furniture.

[00:18:27] Make sure that furniture is nice. Really keep a handle on it. Does it need to be restored? Is it giving you that curb appeal? Is it providing something for you to sit on that you want? Have you got tables to put said cocktail on, for example? Really keep on top of that furniture? 'cause what we see sometimes is there is a habit of this furniture kind of sticking around a little bit longer than it needs to.

[00:18:49] It's outdoor furniture and it's like, oh, that'll do what happens if I have more people around, you know, do create a porch that is for the 364 days a year and not. For the one day a year that you've got somebody else visiting that's going to sit on your porch, really important to keep on top of furniture as well as other things in your porch.

[00:19:07] Ingrid: Yeah, I, I think I completely agree with you, Lesley, and I think that can sometimes be done by getting some new cushions or a new, uh, seating, uh, area. It doesn't have to be all new furniture. Sometimes by repairing, refurbishing, maintaining your furniture, you can really get a lot more wear out of it and by.

[00:19:24] Adding some smaller touches, you can really kind of make it look much nicer and more inviting for you as well to sit out and next to the furniture. I think, and, and also a, a category that we, I wanted to talk about is plants and flowers. A lot of people have flower baskets, pot plants on their ferrend and porches because of course it looks nice and everything, but.

[00:19:48] Then we sometimes forget to water them, or we forget to replace the flowers or the plants in them, and it all looks a little bit sad. While if you give it a little bit of love and attention, it immediately looks a lot better and you just don't want to have lots of empty pots, plastic or, or, um, uh, ceramic just kind of lying about.

[00:20:11] Lesley: Yeah, exactly. So keep on top of that. And also empty plant pots. That's something, you know, when people re-pot things and keep the kind of orange plastic, plant pot that it comes in, those things can go or be given away. People love those things. So do go to your free cycle groups to give those kind of things away.

[00:20:27] Um, I think another thing that finds its way into porches is things like deicer. And screen wash and stuff like that. So stuff from the car. Um, if there's a, a sort of a transition from the house to the car. Sometimes if you've got a garage, this doesn't end up going through the porch, it goes through the garage.

[00:20:47] But often if you don't have a garage, then it will end up in the porch and that doesn't look that nice. So if you've got somewhere else to store it, don't store it in your porch, store it somewhere else. We don't actually use it that often. We kind of feel like we need to keep it near the car. But actually, I mean, in this country it might be different if you're in.

[00:21:04] Alaska or Canada for example, where it's a little bit more, um, snowy than it's here, but we actually don't need di so that often here. And so really keep that to a minimum. So I think what I'm trying to say is look at the weather where you are and be realistic about what kind of car stuff you need in your port close at hand.

[00:21:26] Ingrid: Now if you are a big decorator for. Holidays for Halloween, for Christmas, for Easter. If you have a lovely wreath for springtime or autumn or birthday things, or whatever it is that you decorate your porch with, I think it's important to stay on top of this. You know, I mean, you don't really want to have Christmas decorations up in February.

[00:21:50] I mean, that's a bit. You know, odd, right? 

[00:21:55] Lesley: I dunno, really. Some people wouldn't consider it to be odd if it's done in an intentional way. I think that's the difference. So some people really like to get those, you know, Christmas trees, I don't know. Um, Thanksgiving, all of the different celebrations that we put things up for, for, for a prolonged period.

[00:22:11] Sometimes people make conscious decisions to put those up for longer than the norm if there is such a thing in inverted commerce. Um, but as long as it's intentional. If you want your Christmas decorations of three months, you go for it. That's your choice. But make sure that it doesn't suddenly feel sad and neglected and it doesn't just look as if you've not bothered to take those down.

[00:22:29] Yeah. And so porches are definitely a place where, where we forget about these things, we leave these things, and then it does look quite odd to you. Because it will be something that you see every time you go in. Oh, I still need to do that. I still need to do that. And you just forget about it. So keep on top of those decorations as well.

[00:22:47] Ingrid: Yes, Lesley. And of course, what I wanted to say as well, give your porch a little bit of a clean, give it a sweep. I mean, it makes all the difference to get the cobwebs down, to get all the dead leaves that are gone to kind of, you know, after you've tidied it up a little bit. Don't, don't stop there. Get a brush out, a dust pan and brush, uh, I mean maybe a bigger brush and just hoover it a little bit or give it a little bit of a sweep or have a Hoover.

[00:23:14] It's so nice. It's really that finishing touch to be able to think, yeah, that looks like a better place now. And actually, I would love to sit out here now and enjoy spending my time or reading a magazine or doing something like if you've got a nice big porch, or even if it's a small porch, it makes all the difference to just come in and in and out of your house.

[00:23:34] Lesley: So England, I want to see a picture of you tonight, um, on your bar stool in your, 

[00:23:40] Ingrid: having a glass of wine 

[00:23:44] Lesley: today is very, very hot in the uk. Only day when England said 31 degrees. 'cause it's the first time it's been 31 degrees in the UK for about 10 years. Yeah. Come on, have that, have that cocktail tonight in.

[00:24:00] Ingrid: You 

[00:24:00] Lesley: can't get in there for all coats and shoes. Yeah, and mail and parcels and, and Christmas decorations. 

[00:24:06] Ingrid: Oh, well anyway, tell us, listeners, tell us listeners, are we right? Have you got a porch or is it a veranda in Australia or New Zealand? Or am I, are we completely wrong or are you like, Well, no, in your dreams, Lesley Ingrid, we don't have a porch.

[00:24:21] I live in America, but I don't have a porch that you describe. I mean, nice that you have a dream vision of sitting on a screened porch. You're allowed. We're allowed, aren't we? We're 

[00:24:30] Lesley: allowed to have that. We know there are people in, you know, one bedroom flats in Manhattan. They've not got a porch, a wraparound porch, and looking out onto 10 acres of land, like in South Carolina.

[00:24:41] Do you know what I. 

[00:24:42] Ingrid: We can have our, our little dreams, can't we? I know, I know. It's lovely. It's lovely. So have you got a porch? Have we actually kind of made you think like, yes, I have all this stuff in my porch. I need to do a bit of a tidy up. It's gotten out of hand recently. I've neglected this space. I need to do something.

[00:25:01] Tell us, let us know in the. In the comments under the show notes, if you go to declutter hub.com/ 2 0 7, you can leave us a, a, a note and a comment and we'll, we, we'd love to know what people are doing all around the world on their horrendous, maybe you do something. I got pictures. Would it be nice to get some pictures?

[00:25:20] Lesley: Yes, yes. I'd love some pictures. Some, some porches. 

[00:25:23] Ingrid: Yes. Send us, uh, maybe if you can't do that in the comments, send us an email or put it in our Facebook group. Oh my gosh. I that, I would love that. This is me on my porch after listening to Ingrid and Lesley's podcast. I do. You know what I've 

[00:25:37] Lesley: realized? Do you know, I've realized, and it is no secret.

[00:25:39] I'm sure you don't. You know that it's that we don't record this on the day that it comes out. I am actually going to be in the deep 

[00:25:46] Ingrid: South and this podcast is coming out. Maybe you can sit on a porch with a cocktail instead of me on my sad bar Stool hit by three. Three by three feet porch. 

[00:25:58] Lesley: I'm definitely going to do that.

[00:25:59] I'm definitely re remind me when I'm off to, um, where will I be? I'll be in Nashville. That's the deep south, isn't it, 

[00:26:06] Ingrid: Tennessee? Yeah. That's completely, 

[00:26:08] Lesley: that's completely I am, I can't, I can't tell you how excited I'm to go. I'm. Stalking people in houses. We stay in one of those houses. You know, one of those guests they call, did they call 'em anti Antebellum or something?

[00:26:20] Antebellum, is that what it's called? 

[00:26:22] Ingrid: Yeah, that's, that sounds familiar. I mean, they definitely will have a porch. So Lesley, I always really listen to the podcast before it comes out to make sure that, that it, everything is, is like, Proper and everything. So do you actually want me to text you on holiday saying Yes.

[00:26:36] Hey, Lesley, don't forget to take that picture on the porch. Yeah, I do, 

[00:26:41] Lesley: I do because I look at otherwise while I'm, while I'm, you know, fun dangling around the deep south. Very exciting. Never been there before. So I am, I hope the deep South does not disappoint 

[00:26:52] Ingrid: us. Oh, it's so beautiful. I know that whole area, Georgia.

[00:26:58] South Carolina, North Carolina. I've been to Nashville as well. It's a long time ago, but Oh, it's just, oh, I love it. I love it so much, so beautiful there. That's funny. I never even 

[00:27:10] Lesley: thought about that. And then I just thought about the town, but oh yes, 

[00:27:13] Ingrid: I will be, oh, thank you holiday goer for reminding us that you are a holiday.

[00:27:18] Well, I'll keep the ship afloat, but I'll remind you of, of your podcast promise. So listeners, Keep an eye out for Lesley's picture. I I really hope that we're not going to forget this because then we're going to be in trouble. Um, but thank you so much for listening, and next week we, I think we need to do a bit more serious, Lesley.

[00:27:38] Yes, because we are just talking about porches and cocktails. So let's talk about next week about the 10 things you need to declutter from your notice board. So thanks so much for being here, and we hope to see you soon.
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