Episode 386 – 10 Tell-Tale Signs that you need to Declutter your House

Ingrid: We all know that clutter creeps in gradually, and before we know it, our homes start to feel heavy, chaotic, and overwhelming. But sometimes the signs that we need to declutter aren't always obvious. In today's episode, we are sharing 10 telltale signs that your home might be crying out for a reset, and how we can help with that.

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Well, hello listeners. It is a 10 Things podcast today, but we have repackaged it because we're gonna call it a 10 Signs podcast today, and I love a 10 Signs podcast, so I'm excited about recording this one.

Lesley: I do notice that you've taken out the thing that was in the introing with, which was 10 telltale signs, so you've not said that a second time because it was a bit of a tongue twister. To be fair, I do like to. Flip these things in. 'cause I do write all the intros and Ingrid delivers the intros to you. I always sneak in a couple of like tongue twisters just to test you, but you pass the first testing with so it's all good.

And talking about, I know exactly. And talking about tests. Normally when we do a 10 things podcast, we do a little score situation, don't we? And we see how many of each we have. And I think we can safely say for this one, we're gonna have zero each, which you would hopefully expect

Ingrid: Yeah.

Lesley: sat here, waxing lyrical about why one should declutter your house.

If we had the 10 tail signs that we had to declutter our house, then we wouldn't be great professional organizers. I think that's fair to say, right.

Ingrid: Definitely, definitely. So I think we're gonna be good. So no tell needed today, but let's get cracking because we have got a good list, for you guys. We've got a good list together. So let's start with number one, which is, you probably have a telltale sign if you are on a first name basis with your delivery driver.

Lesley: Or drivers.

Ingrid: Or Dr.

Lesley: You don't just have one these days, do you? You know, 'cause you've got all of the

Ingrid: others Yeah. Your posty your evri your Amazon, your thingy It depends where you are. It'll be different in different parts of the world. Right. But yeah, if that doorbell is always a ringing all day long because the parcels are keeping on coming.

Lesley: Then that might be a sign that there's a little bit too much shopping taking place. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that you've got too much clutter 'cause there might be things going out in the same way that you've got coming in. But if you have got a load of parcels and you don't know what's in them.

You know, that's always another little bit of a telltale sign where you're like, oh, I wonder what this is. You kind of know what's coming, right? Ingrid, if you've got parcels that are unopened that you're leaving, you're just getting that. That's a sign that the dopamine hit was at the time that you bought it, and you're not that bothered by the time it comes through the door.

So deliveries are a bit of a big one, aren't they? When it comes to being a telltale signing grid.

Ingrid: Yeah, that's definitely, and this is from me, who very regularly accept packages from my neighbors. Now, of course I do. Yeah, we do work from home a lot, so that makes us an easy target. And I think some of the delivery drivers know that my neighbors are not in a lot and that we are. So I'm constantly at least a couple of times a week going, Hmm, there's another package for my neighbors.

This is a telltale sign.

Lesley: Exactly. So that's our number one. Now, let's go on to number two, Ingrid. What about if you're one of those people that's always late, it's because you're running around at the last minute trying to find the things that you need to get you out of the door. That's a sign that your house is not that organised and that some of the key essential items are not where they need to be, or you don't know where they are.

That's a telltale sign that we need to reinvigorate the house, reorganise it. And try and find out and put things in the right place. Right.

Ingrid: Yeah, definitely. I think it's really that scramble. You know, you are, you know, when you, I mean, of course we all have visual lives. We got a lot to pack in. But if you're somebody who's always scrambling at the last minute, oh, oh, and I need to get the water bottle and I forgot the, the, my shopping bags or the kids school bag is not there, or where are the shoes or. Oh, I thought I put my coat here and now it's not there. And where's the keys? And, and why do I always put my mobile in a different place I mean, all of those things mean that you're scrambling at the last minute, and that means you're probably going to be late. So It's really, can be a really a telltale sign that the clutter is really holding you back of just being more efficient and everything run a bit more smoothly.

Lesley: It's just all of these things, and it might not sound like the most important thing in the world, but it's all these things that just cause this like low level. Daily stress. There's always this underlying like stressful situation, isn't there? Leaving the house because you can't find these things. And if you can declutter and reorganize your house, some of that stress alleviates.

Now we're not saying it takes it all away. 'cause particularly if you've got kids that low level stress, there is whether or not you can find your water bottle or not. To be fair, as you're leaving the house, it's always a bit of a scramble, but it helps. And so this might be a sign of that hallway. We need to be assigning things to the right places.

So that is our number two. You are always late because you can't find the things that you need. Let's move on to number three, which is a little bit more serious. Ingrid.

Ingrid: Mm-hmm. definitely. And that is a telltale sign can be when you have rooms in your house that are actually not fulfilling the purpose. That you gave them, what do we mean with that? For example, you have a spare room that has a guest bed, but you can never have guests because that spare room has become such a dumping ground. Loads of stuff is in there that shouldn't be in there. You can't even see the bed. That's a big problem. Same with maybe, you created a, a, you have an home office or you've got a room with a desk in it, but you're forever working on your dining room table because actually your home office is such a total chaos that you can't even think about trying to focus and get stuff done there.

It can be, maybe a room that you set up to do crafts or hobbies, but you've bought so many. extra materials and things and extra hobbies, and now you actually can't do any crafting at all. You still love the shopping of all the crafting and all the craft bits, but you're actually not doing the crafting in the room that you specifically set up for it.

So, and that's really, you know, such a waste because those are actually the things. make it fun, right? Being able to have guests over to stay at your house, to be able to craft in that room to easily pay bills or work from home in the, the, in the room that you created for it.

Lesley: I think, you know, basically what we're saying is it's when clutter starts to gravitate and overwhelm rooms as we can even be garages Ingrid, which are intended as an overflow, but if the wrong kind of things is overflowing into the garage, you know, if you, if you've got kitchen items overflowing into the garage or crafting items or things like that, even garages, which are intended for overflow, don't work as well as they could.

And so it's really, really important that we designate. You know, use uses for a room and to all intents and purposes, it rema. It remains like that.

Ingrid: Yeah.

Lesley: when that's not the case, it's a side that we need to reset, take back control, and allow these rooms to do what they're intended to do. Right.

Ingrid: Mm, definitely, definitely. I think it's really important and I think that is something that I think you can't, that will, will not happen overnight. That will take time. That's, this is not a quick fix, but I think it can be, you know, one of your. picture goals to say, actually, I want my house to flow so I can actually do the stuff that I want to do in my house.

And one of the things, part of that is I actually need to declutter and organize it. So my big picture goal is to have people over so I can have them stay over and not have a whole scramble and move loads of stuff out of the way before I can even have the people come in.

Lesley: Exactly. Exactly. So yeah, that is our number three. Now, number four is. If you are avoiding opening curtains or letting people in, so you're kind of being quite secretive about what's going on because you're embarrassed about what's behind the curtains or behind the front door, I think that's when then when the clutter starts to really take over.

But it's just a feeling that we have inside and that is a sign. And to be fair, if you already know that you're keeping the curtains closed. Or that you are not allowing people into your home. You probably know already that the clutter is becoming overwhelming and embarrassing and you probably got that shame already.

And so, but that's a sign that we need to take back control and actually get stuck in and not allow it to build anymore. So it's not that it's a kind of. A realization that you've got clutter, but it's a sign that it is time to do something about it. Because what we don't want is for your home to be somewhere where you, you can't share that with other people.

It's really important and we want you to be able to throw those curtains open and get the daylight in. 'cause those things are so important to our wellbeing. So if you are that kind of person who is keeping those curtains closed all the time, you can find yourself gradually finding yourself doing that.

That's a sign that maybe things are getting worse as that's something that needs to be tackled.

Ingrid: Yeah,

I think this whole opening curtains is really fascinating, actually, Lesley, because of course I come from the ne from the Netherlands, where we are known to have like hardly any curtains and our curtains are always open and it's not when I started actually living in other places that are realized this is not very common. A lot of the course as always we're generalizing, but a lot of Dutch people have there. You can see, you know, you can see into people's houses because, and we've got really big windows as well, but when, of course, when I moved to the US and I lived in the southern states where it gets really halts all the time, that's where we had the curtains closed a lot and the, the, the, the, the blinds and all of those things because to get, give the heat out. But I think that's a different thing. In it together. I think when you, when you struggle with clutter and you keep your curtains closed and you've got, you know, you've got, wall curtains and over curtains and it's always closed because you're embarrassed of people possibly being able to look in, I think that is definitely a telltale sign like. Okay. I, I, I've got work to do here. And you know, when somebody rings a doorbell, you're embarrassed to open the front door fully because you don't want people to see in. And I think, so there's a difference between having, and I realize that, right? It's not everybody. I'm like, Ooh, as, as soon as soon as you see a closed curtain, they must have clutter.

But you can, there's a difference, right? Of course with, with temperature and where you live and all of that. So, but

Lesley: I think it's about, yeah. Yeah, definitely. And I, I think it is. It's all about that self-awareness. Once we're aware that things are getting worse, then that's the first step

Ingrid: Yeah.

Lesley: of journey towards regeneration, I think, isn't it? I think that's what's important. This is about, hopefully through this you go, oh, actually that's not what I was like a year ago, but I've started to gradually do that a little bit more.

And if you're sort of seeing those, hopefully things like this are gonna. Encourage you to tend to start to take the action that you need to live the life that you deserve. And that's what this is all about.

Ingrid: Yeah.

Lesley: on number five, Ingrid, before we go to a break, is you feel like you are constantly managing your home.

It's something else that needs to be done rather than something that is there for you. You know you are there for it rather than it being there for you. You're constantly managing your home rather than living in it or enjoying it.

Ingrid: Yeah. I mean, let's be honest, we all have chores, right? We, if we make a meal, we have to do the washing up. If we, buy stuff, we get packaging and rubbish and we have to empty the bins and we have to do laundry if we wanna have clean clothes, that's not what we mean. It's really that step further ahead when you're like. I feel like I am, just surviving in here because there's so much that needs to be done the whole time. I, I feel I can just never relax. You know? I can, I, I'm always kind of on, on the go the whole time and I'm just, house is running me instead of

Lesley: Me instead of me running the house. Exactly, and that it's so important. It's like the, the difference between coping with your house and living in it. You know, we deserve a nice house. Like our house is one of the biggest things that we own. It's the most important things, and it can provide safety, security, sanctuary, you know, heat, warmth, comfort, all of those kind of things.

And if you're constantly looking at stuff that you need to do, then the positive sides of having a home, having a, a lovely home to exist in. Are taken away because it just feels like one constant never ending chore, you know? And that's what we wanna take away. You need to get to a stage where there's a day where you don't do any chores.

You just enjoy cooking in your home, like crafting in your home, inviting people into your home, having friends over, having guests over. Of course, as Ingrid says, we need to do chores, we need to do laundry, we need to do all of those things just to keep things ticking over. What we don't wanna be doing is decluttering day in, day out.

Yes, we need to do resets every day, to keep things ticking over. But we don't wanna be decluttering and Organising our home every single day. That should be something that's done periodically. You know, it might need a big push in the first instance, but we need to get to a stage where that's not taking over and pervading our life.

That's where we're trying to get to, isn't it, Ingrid? So, yeah, so we've done our first five. I'm, I'm right in saying that. None of those apply to you, Ingrid.

Ingrid: you are right. of these apply to me, so, yeah, I'm happy with that. I'm happy doing good so far. How about you, Lesley?

Lesley: Well, I must admit, I probably am on first name terms with the delivery driver, but that's not my doing. That is my lovely husband who does do love a parcel, so I feel like I'm gonna have to take a sort of. Take one, sadly. And I know there's no sign. There's no sign there because I know, like I know that I don't need a telltale sign.

I just need to get a new husband. Basically that's, that would be the answer to all my.

Ingrid: you were gonna come clean about number one. I, I, I was trying to be nice and gonna go. Hmm. But I kind of was like, if you're not gonna talk about number one, we might have to do a talk.

Lesley: I came clean, I came clean, I came back to it in the end. So yeah, one out of 10 I think I'm gonna get there might be one, there might be a sneaky one in, in, part two. Who knows? But for now, let's go for a break. Come back in a moment and discuss our next five telltale signs that you need to declutter your home.

Ingrid: Well, welcome back listeners. I'm loving this conversation so far. What a great list we have created so swiftly. Let's move on to number six at Telltale sign that You have too much clutter in your house, is that you need to buy things regularly. That you actually already have in your house, but you have to rebuy them because you can't find them or you know they're somewhere, you're not exactly sure where.

That's a telltale sign

Lesley: Do you know where everything is in your house?

Ingrid: Apart from maybe some tools in the garage, I would say yes, I

know where everything is in my house. Yeah,

Lesley: It is just a weird thing, isn't it? You know, because if I can't find something straight away that I think I need, I'm like, well, I, I dunno where it is then, because like if it's not there, then I don't know where else it might be. Do you, do you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, everything has its spot and I'm like.

Well, it's just there. That's where it is. So if it's not there, then it's gone. Right? And so it's an interesting one. I think it's really helpful to know where everything is in your home and to assign things. And this is something that comes further down the line, right? Ingrid, if you've got a cluttered, chaotic home, it's gonna take a while before you do this kind of William Morris.

A place where everything in, everything in its place, which is what we're trying to get towards. But it's a goal. You know, we talked a lot about goals. We're not gonna fix all this stuff overnight. If you're overwhelmed with clutter in your home. But that's a sign, you know, that is a sign. That's something that people, yeah.

Do you know what I, I am always going out buying things because that has an impact. It has an impact financially. We're wasting money on things that we don't need, and we're adding to the clutters. So it's a double whammy, isn't it? Ingrid?

Ingrid: Yeah. Oh, for sure. For sure. And it can be, you know, the simplest things in the, you know, you're not gonna lose a piece of furniture if you know what I mean, but it's always the things that kind of like, like a pair of scissors or some sticky tape or batteries or, you know, those kind of things that you don't even think about. That are secretly can cost a lot of money from some strange reason, and you're like, why am I putting this on my Amazon shopping list yet again to have delivered at my house? Because I know it is somewhere here, you know, it's not very common that you throw out a couple of a pair of scissors, you know what I mean? I mean, an accidents happen, obviously, but I mean, I have inadvertently maybe thrown out a, or something, you know, by, by accident. But it's not very normal that things get thrown away. That shouldn't be thrown away because you, you, you look at what you throw away, so. When things don't get returned to the place where they normally live, and then they start to kind of travel, you know, go on detours in your house and you're like, where's this thing gone?

I'm sure I had it. That's a telltale sign. If you keep kind of ordering stuff that you know you have but you don't know where it is, that's a telltale sign that

Lesley: Yeah.

Ingrid: much stuff.

Lesley: I think it goes even further as well Ingrid. 'cause we talk about the fact that we know that it's in the house. There are many people who don't know that it's in the house as well, so they order things and find out that they've already got it with no clue that they already had one. So that takes it one step further as well.

And so there's about knowing where it is and can't, not being able to find it. And then there's a another stage which is. Not remembering that you bought it in the first place. Do you know what I mean? Which is another whole nother level really, but really, really important. If that's you and you're constantly like, I've got that feeling of like buying things, that you don't need, then that is a telltale sign that it's time to declutter your house.

Now let's go on to number seven, Ingrid. and this is a really interesting one, and we don't want to go into a kind of a dark place really, but. Often as professional organizers, people talk to us about things like, I wish that there was some kind of natural disaster that would take all the clutter away from it overnight.

You know, like a fire or, and of course people don't wish that really,

Ingrid: No. No.

Lesley: but the psychology is there. That they wish that it was all taken away and one fell swoop so they no longer had the worry of the stuff. And that is not something that is uncommon. That is a feeling that people have. Of course, they don't really, really want it, but they articulate it in that way.

So you secretly wish that something would come and take the decision making and your stuff away in one fell swoop. That is a feeling, and that's really sad, isn't it? To think that you. I just don't want to have control over your stuff. 'cause it's really important to us, isn't it, Ingrid? Wouldn't it? Within what we teach is we want you to be able to make controlled decisions about the stuff that you keep.

We want you to understand why you're keeping some things and letting other things go, but to get all that taken away, the feeling of that clutter is so overwhelming that you just want it gone.

Ingrid: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's, it's very much like when, when people do statements like, I'm just gonna hire a dumpster or skip and throw everything away. That's kind of a similar kind of thing, right. Of course the people who've had fires and floods and who've lost everything, of course, they are grateful to still be alive and that the most important thing are pets and other people and those kind of things. And we know that people who say this don't really, don't want this to happen, but it's mostly the, the massive overwhelming feeling that they feel and they feel so out of control that in their head they're like, I'm just gonna just gonna order a skip. I'm gonna throw everything away. And it's like, okay, hold, hold on a minute. This is not your solution. We need to teach you how to do this step by step because we want you to not throw everything away. We want you to actually, we we're going to show you and teach you and talk to you about, okay? How are we gonna get this clutter under control? But we see, we hear these telltale signs and that's like a sign, okay, this person is really fed up with the clutter, is really overwhelmed.

They're really, you know, they, they, they are ready to, to, to make changes. So definitely a telltale sign. Yeah, absolutely.

Lesley: Yeah, so moving on to number eight. Now, there are a lot of people who constantly have that feeling that they need a bigger house. So if you, and, and for some people, ideally, you would have a bigger hou, you know, if you are crammed into a two, three bedroom place and there's six or seven of you and your family, of course a bigger house would be really useful.

But it would probably be more useful for the people and the space and the, you know. Kind of more to have space, but people feel that they need a bigger house to house the stuff, which is like crazy, right? And because we, we just need to have less stuff. ideally, of course there's a minimum amount of stuff that you need.

And if you've got that big family that we were just talking about, stuff comes along with people, unfortunately. But we need to keep that in perspective. Do we actually need to have a bigger house or do we need less stuff? And so if you're constantly thinking. A set, a fourth bedroom would fix my problems.

Think about what you would do with that fourth bedroom. Is it for a fourth person or is it for an overflow of stuff? And therefore do you need it? We don't want to have a a, you know, just imagine the real estate and the cost of having a four bedroom house compared to a three bedroom house. You could fix that with less stuff.

You know, so many people, Ingrid, that we work with, you know, they're moving house, they're moving to a four bedroom house. We come in, we declutter, and they're like, oh actually I didn't need, actually, I didn't need that, fourth bedroom. I just needed less stuff, you know, and people make those choices, don't they, to declutter when they've already made the decision to move to a bigger house.

And so it's a bit of a tricky one, isn't it? So if you're constantly thinking that you need a bigger house for your stuff. Then that's something that you need to think about, isn't it?

Ingrid: Yeah. Yeah. Or they actually buy a bigger house thinking that will solve their problem, but actually because they have more space and far more rooms to fill, the shopping actually just goes into like a, say? How do you, I'm trying to think of the

Lesley: Overdrive?

Ingrid: goes

Lesley: Overdrive, like it's over.

Ingrid: It goes, it goes into overdrive.

And I've seen it happen. You know, I've seen it happen when clients, you know, I've said, Ingrid, you know, I'm, I, I'm, I'm going to move house. I want you to help me sort things out before I move. And because this house is too small, I'm gonna move to a bigger house. And I'm just like, well, this house. Okay. You know, it's not the biggest house, but it's actually fine.

I can understand you want some more space, it was just because they wanted to house more stuff and not because they needed that actual footprint with the, with the size family they had. So, and it really, it really. Catapulted into massive overshopping and that that is, you know, that's difficult to see because you're like, oh, now there's even more stuff to declutter.

So actually it made the problem worse going to a bigger house and not less so, yeah, this is definitely, we see something telltale sign. Absolutely. Let's go on to number nine, Lesley, another one that we thought about as well, and that we is a telltale sign, and that is if you avoid being at home because your home takes gets you down, so you're always out, you're always going out for. Coffee with friends, or you're going out for a walk or you're going out to work and you then stay longer and do lots of overtime because you don't wanna go home, or you are always wanting to meet up with people or you want to, or you spend your time walking Around the shops

Lesley: the.

Ingrid: than necessary. Because you don't wanna be at home. was actually listening to a radio program, the other day, Lesley, and this lady who was, with, with, with chronic, chronic hoarding and hoarding this order actually said, did everything not to be in this house. So nothing got resolved. the.

clutter just got worse and worse and worse because she was always out.

So this is definitely a telltale sign that we see in, in, in real life.

Lesley: Yeah, absolutely. And I think, you know, it, it, it jumps back to something we were talking about before where we don't want you to be a slave to your house either. You know? 'cause you just, all your, all your house presents to you is work and we want it to, to flip on its head and for your home to be a sanctuary, you know?

So it should be a safe space. And so if you are avoiding that space, then that's something that needs to change, slowly but surely. So, yes, and that takes us very neatly into. To number 10, which is when you wake up one day and go, I can't carry on living like this. And something needs to change. And the good thing about that is that you've realized that you've got clutter.

The telltale signs are there, the overwhelming proof is there that it is time. And you're like, I have to change and I have to be ready. And so really what we need to do is we need to take. A bit of learning. We need to learn how to do this 'cause it's all well and good. Recognizing and being aware that all of these things are happening.

You know, the fact that you are over buying, the fact that you don't wanna be at home, you're not opening your curtains, you feel overwhelmed, you're a slave to your home. All of the things that we've spoken about. But ultimately we need to do something about it and we need to not avoid and procrastinate.

So if you are thinking about making a change. That's a telltale sign that it's the right time isn't Ingrid and.

Ingrid: Yes, because, reset your home challenge is back. We are doing a reset your home challenge at the start of January, which is of course, the perfect time after a lovely, festive month. And, lot of people in January go, okay. I'm going to make changes in the new year. I want to get started, and a lot of people put priorities on their house.

So if you're thinking to yourself, ignorant and Lesley, that is me. Something needs to change. I need help. How do I do that? My suggestion now, our suggestion to you is come and join us for our Reset Your Home Challenge. We've had tens and tens of thousands of people do this challenge and absolutely love it. We're going to teach you so much in our challenge. It's going to start on Monday, the 5th of January, and sign up is open from today.

Lesley: That's exciting, isn't it? Now? It's been a while now, if you're a brand new listener or you've been, you've not been here for a full year, 'cause we have not done a reset Your home challenge since January, 2025. So it's been a whole year since we've done this, and so it's very popular. People absolutely love it.

It involves effort from you guys. You need to turn up and listen to what we have to say and get involved with your fellow community members and you will learn. So much about yourself, about your home, about the decluttering process. We take things room by room, and so we will focus on different rooms, on different days, but we will focus a lot on the emotional side of things.

And so if it's the emotions, if you, all of the things that we've been speaking about today, you know, the, the overwhelming feeling, the feeling that you're a slave to your house, the procrastination, the avoidance, all of those things that we've spoken about. Those are the reasons why we have too much stuff in our house.

It's not just about stuff, it's about the emotions that sit behind the stuff and during the reset your home challenge. Yes, we do focus on individual rooms and the practicalities of things, but we very much focus on the, on the emotions that sit behind the stuff and why we make the decisions that we do.

To either keep or let things go. That's the beauty of the Reset Your Home Challenge. As Ingrid said, it's super popular. We've had tens of thousands of people go through this and absolutely love it. It's completely free, which is great. All you need to do is turn up, sign up, as Ingrid said, is open today.

All the details are on the signup page, which is Declutter Hub dot com slash r yh for reset your home. And so you'll find all the details there that you need. It'll tell you what we're doing on which days, what times we're doing it, all that kind of stuff. There's no catch. We just need you to come sign up.

Listen, take part, and that'll give you a really good kickstart into January, won't it? Ingrid?

Ingrid: Honestly, I can't wait. I love doing this challenge. I love what happens with the group that we take through the challenge, the massive light bulbs they have, the, the insights in themselves. the, the comradery of, of of, of the, the, the people who sign up. It's absolutely fantastic. And l let's be honest, you know, we are always, you know, it's the be 5th of January, but we are like, we are ready.

I mean, most people are like, oh no, we have to go back to work. And we're like, we're ready for this. Woohoo. Because we love it. Because we love to see the changes that happen to people and that is just. Phenomenal, and we can't wait for you to join. So.

don't be shy. If you think to yourself, okay, I am hearing you, Ingrid, Lesley, I'm going to do this. Sign up on Declutter Hub dot com slash r yh, because we can't wait to see you there. We're gonna send you emails with information and all of that jazz. So,

Lesley: So.

Ingrid: it will be an exciting time. We've had such a phenomenal, This year. It'll be great to see so many of you again at the start of January. Lesley, we need to do a telly before we go. So how have you done in the second half you, you act actually admitted to number one. How are you doing on this? On the part two? Have we got anything that you think, Ooh, good. I'm good.

Lesley: Nothing on num, nothing on part two, nothing. Okay. You Ingrid's being a winner. Ingrid's being a winner. Exactly. And I'm not. There's been, there's been no reason for me to be mean to you today, which will make a lot of people very happy as well, Ingrid. So, yes. I've been super nice to you today. I was even nice.

To you about your intro and so there we go. Lesley, it's been nice to Ingrid day. Just before I, before I go, I just want to say one thing 'cause we're getting towards the end of the year and decluttering is on people's wishlists for 20, for 2026. We know that's the thing. It happens every year. But we want to just reiterate our, our favorite quote is, if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got.

Okay? So don't just make a resolution and take, don't take it into action. You need to do something different. You can't just. Expect it to all happen. If you are that person who wanted to declutter at the beginning of 2025 and it didn't happen, then you need to do something in 2026 and perhaps I'll reset your home Challenges, just the things that's gonna spark, spark you into the energy and the action that you need.

So just think about that. Don't just expect things to happen if you don't make a change. So I just wanted to say that. So, yes, exciting times. Decla hub.com/r yh reset your home challenge. We are ready.

Ingrid: Yes, we are. And, thank you listeners. us know what you have realized. You're like, oh, you've really caught me out here Ingrid, Lesley. I have got one, two, or maybe all telltale signs, and you've really kind of made me think now. And yes, you've made me think I need to join this challenge as well.

Let us know in the comments. We would love to hear from you. We love connecting with our listeners, so let us know in the comments. We will reply. yeah. We'll hope to see you next week at our final podcast of 2025. Gosh, can you believe it? We are going to do, I know. It's incredible, isn't it, Lesley?

We are going to do a review of 2025 because what a year has it been? So make sure you tune in next week. But for now, thanks for listening. We appreciate you.