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Episode 30 – Planning a house move

In this podcast, Lesley and Ingrid talk about planning a house move. What can you do before, during and after to make a house move go smoothly. Moving house is one of the most stressful things one can do in ones life and it involves quite a lot of planning to make it all go smoothly on the day. We talk about everything that needs doing so you're well prepared for planning your house move.
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Intro  0:07  
Welcome to today's episode of The Declutter Hub Podcast, your channel for super easy, no nonsense advice on how to declutter and organise your home. Please welcome your host professional organisers, Ingrid Jansen, and Lesley Spellman.

Ingrid  0:29  
Hello, and welcome listeners to Episode 30 of the Declutter Hub Podcast. I'm Ingrid and I'm Lesley. If you have clutter and want to sort it out, this is to show for you. In today's episode, Lesley and I are talking about planning a house move. Since our listeners have asked us for more information. We both realise that planning a house move is quite a big task. And in this podcast, we touch upon the highlights. Both Lesley and I have moved nationally and internationally. And we know a thing or two about moving house. Lesley, very long list of things to go through, isn't it?

Lesley  1:05  
Yeah. And I think you know, it's an interesting one, really, because we just can't cover everything. Otherwise we'd be here, it'd be a three and a half hour podcast. And so I think we'll just give people some pointers. And I think we're going to produce a checklist, aren't we to go along with the podcast? Yeah, that will go into a little bit more detail. Definitely. So I think that's really important to to note down. So we're not going to tell you everything you need to know because that would be a little bit.

Ingrid  1:28  
So of course, I know what we're going to get started with. And it's my favourite thing. Of course, the first thing we need to do is declutter and organise before you actually are going to move out,

Lesley  1:38  
that is true. And so what we're not going to do is talk about your favourite thing decluttering and organising. Because we've got a whole host of other podcasts about that. But I think it goes without saying ideally, even before you have got an offer on a house, and you know, where you move into when your house goes on the market, you should have done that. decluttering ideally, before that kind of home staging thing. Really. Yeah. So but decluttering before you move is really, really important to make sure you're only paying to move the things that you actually need at the other end. Yeah, really critical.

Ingrid  2:08  
Yeah. So as soon as so if you're even considering possibly moving house, within now, and maybe a year or so, start with decluttering and organising some of your belongings, because it will save you money, it will save you time, everything that you don't want. You don't have to pack and unpack. So if any of you considering doing this, start with some decluttering and organising.

Lesley  2:31  
Yeah. And just jumping back to what I was just saying about home staging, which is quite a grand term, isn't it? I think I'll do another podcast completely on home staging. Yeah. Because decluttering is huge part of that as well, isn't it? And I think we can go into more detail about the kind of things that buyers like and don't like, and so on before you even put your house on the market. Let's do that in another podcast. Yeah.

Ingrid  2:48  
Good idea. So what's the second thing? I think this is more of your expertise, a lot of legal paperwork is involved in a house move as well, isn't it?

Lesley  2:57  
Yeah, I think if we go through a sort of timeline, and obviously, everyone's timeline is completely different in with a house move, because some people move in six weeks, some people take six months, and so on. But in terms of the order that things might happen, obviously, the decluttering and organising is something that needs to take place over several weeks or months, ideally, but then the first thing that's going to hit you once you've had an offer accepted on a house is the legal stuff. So it's going to be this stuff. And we're talking predominantly really about buying a house today rather than renting. But we will touch on that very briefly. Well, because I know you wanted to mention that. Yeah, but let's focus really on buying a house. And so it's really going to be the legals and so your solicitor is going to be appointed once you've had an offer accepted on a house. And at that point, they're going to start asking for information. Again, it's gonna be very different depending on what house you move into, whether it's a house, whether it's a flat with a management company, whether it's a retirement property, there's so many different things that you might get asked for. But you know, mainly, you're gonna get asked for information about the house at legal information about boundaries, about fences, about whether there's been any issues with things, whether there's been any flooding, that kind of thing. And obviously, they do searches and things for a lot of things, but there's something but certain things which are all about your knowledge, really, and those the kinds of things the solicitor is going to ask you about, and you need to be kind of ready for that. Yeah. And obviously, a lot of people who have moved me some people don't move that often. So they're not used to seeing these things. And so this is all brand new, whereas you and I with the work that we do with people move in, and also because we've both moved quite a few times ourselves. Yeah, sort of well used to that kind of thing. And but it's just really important to know what you might anticipate and to get that kind of information ready. Yeah.

Ingrid  4:41  
I think also as a kind of a site of listeners that suddenly just popped into my head from the beginning. Keep your paperwork from your house separately from your kind of regular maybe get a folder or a box or a flyer or books file or something where you can put all the paperwork for the for the house move and all the solicitor stuff together. So he doesn't end up with all your normal paperwork.

Lesley  5:02  
Yeah, you almost need a chronology. And you need to keep there's so much that comes in that period in time. It's just keeping on top of exactly what needs to be done. Yeah. And it's responding really quickly to that if you can, so that you can keep it moving along. Yeah, the last thing you want is for you to be delaying things. Yeah. You got, you know, the bottom line is you can't influence what the person that's buying your house does. If you're in a chain, you can't influence the other people, but you can control your bit of it, which is the sort of sale of your property?

Ingrid  5:29  
Yeah, of course, if you are in a rental property, make sure that you check your contract and see how much notice you need to give your landlord, do you need to return keys to certain time do you need to leave the property in a certain state? And also, can you get a letter of recommendation if you're going to rent again? So think about those things as well, if you're renting and not buying or selling,

Lesley  5:52  
perfect. So I think we should leave the legal people to talk about the legal stuff, because we know nothing about it really apart from a very small amount. But basically, you need to be ready for that legal paperwork. Yeah, man. I think that's what we wanted to say about that. And then we get into things that we do know a little bit more about, which is good, which is the logistics of the move and planning for that moving down. How are you actually going to get your stuff from your house? To the next house? Yeah. And yeah, I

Ingrid  6:17  
think it's important that you think prior to your house move, how do you see this happening? Are you going to move yourself? Are you going to move with some help of friends? Are you going to sort out a man with a van for the big pieces of furniture? Do you want to hire a removal company that is going to help you get your stuff from one place to the other? So a decision needs to be made about that?

Lesley  6:45  
Yeah, and obviously, the big factor within that is going to be budget, you know, because there's a huge difference between doing a DIY move, and getting a moving company. And so budget is going to play a big part. Yeah. But having said that, I think it's really important to be realistic about what you might expect, if you're moving yourself, moving house is such a stressful time. And certainly, when I'm helping clients to move, I will recommend the moving company option, just because it just is much smoother, the stuff seems to be looked after better. It just seems to logistically take the stress down a little bit because they know exactly what they're doing for the most part. So what might if we went down this route, we'll jump back to DIY in a minute, or a man with Van as well, which is kind of a halfway house, isn't it? Yeah. But let's if we go for a full blown moving company, I think that the you know, yes, they're gonna move your stuff from A to B, the things that I think that you need to consider, you know, obviously, get two or three moving companies around to do quotations for you. And it's really important to be able to see through the jargon. So we're gonna talk about a lot of things gonna talk about a packing service, and they're going to talk about an unpacking service, they're going to talk about insurance. And they're going to talk about protection of your property. And it's important to know what each of those things mean, really. So I if I can, we'll always get the house packed up for a client. Normally, I mean, obviously, it depends on the amount of stuff, but I'm doing a house move on Friday. And so the packing of the whole house, and this is what a three bedroom property is about 200 250 pounds, really, when I quite often oversee house moves. If I were to then pack that house up for the client, it was probably a lot more than 250 pounds if I were to do that. Yeah. And a lot more stressful. And the stuff wouldn't be insured because I'm not a packer. You know, I'm not somebody who's used to packing things up really effectively and fragile and breakables and things like that. Yeah. So I think it's really important. So pack in, if you can afford it is a really good option. That's definitely going to smooth the process.

Ingrid  8:48  
I think you're completely that's completely right, because they are so quick. I mean, I remember my house moved from Holland to Ireland, where I was, before I came to the UK, it was just these five guys. They were super efficient. They came in at 738 o'clock in the morning. And by the time it was one o'clock, my whole house was packed. And it was a two floor, four bedroom house. And it was just unbelievable, because they're so efficient. And they're used to it and they know exactly what kind of books to use for what kind of stuff and they've got specialty books as for clothes with hanging rails in them. So I felt really spoiled. I thought that was funny. I think the packing is the dreaded part. I don't mind the unpacking, but the packing Oh my gosh. So if you can afford that I think it's definitely worth looking into. If you have a removal company over and I agree with you have two or three at least quotes, but also say okay, how much will it be on top of this if I have it packed or unpacked. So

Lesley  9:45  
definitely look at that and then they tend to come in. So what's happening with the move that I'm doing on Friday, isn't there then coming in on Thursday, they'll do the pack on Thursday. We're going to talk a little bit about the logistics of the move arm and what you need to do yourself to prepare for that. But in terms as of when you're at this stage, we're just talking to moving companies about the kind of services they offer. And we'll come back a little bit later to the logistics of that. So it's important to look at the packing service that they offer, they will also offer an unpacking service. Now, only to know that what they're not going to do when they do that on pack is they're not going to put your stuff away for you subtly. And all they're going to do is they're going to unpack, remove the boxes, remove the paper that they've packed things in, and they're going to put things on surfaces. So what you're going to have is you're going to have the whole of your kitchen equipment all on your kitchen work surface or on a floor or on a table. I think that it can be quite overwhelming. Sometimes if everything gets unpacked. And on moving day, you've got to do that. So when I'm working with clients, we tend to unpack ourselves. So we can do it much more systematically, we can organise it well, and it's not as overwhelming as it might be otherwise. But that's entirely up to you. But that's what an unpacking service is. Yeah,

Ingrid  10:54  
just realise. Also, when you have the quotes coming in, that a lot of it is based on distance. So for example, if you move just around the corner, it's the time that it takes to pack. But then they don't have to put a lot of the budget towards actually the travelling, my move from Holland to Ireland was very expensive. Thank God, it was paid for. But that was I mean, we're talking, I think 6000 euros at the time. And that was coached 1314 years ago, because of course, my stuff had to go over to stretches of land and to stretch some water. And then of course, then four years later, I moved from Ireland to here in the UK 10 years ago. And that was, I think about four or four and a half 1000 euros at the time. So because the distance was shorter, if you move just around the corner, it might not be as expensive as you think it's going to be. So it really makes sense to get those quotes in to get an idea.

Lesley  11:53  
Yeah, and I think an international move, yours is not so bad, because at least they could go buy land when I'm in America might have to go into a shipping container. And then it was 12. So that's a logistically that was much harder ways. Yeah. But let's not go into all of that. Moving to Australia. So it's because we could just be here for hours and hours. But yeah, look at the packing service. Look at the unpacking service, obviously, look at the price, it's important to look at the insurances, because you're gonna get offered insurance from them. Just know that a lot of household insurance policies do include cover when you're moving your stuff from one house to the other. But obviously check that out before you make a decision on it. And the other important thing that I think it's really important is to talk to them about how they're going to protect your property while they're moving it. So what is going to happen with the beds? Are they going to get wrapped in blankets? What's you know, how do they protect, obviously, there's things that are in boxes, but your actual, you know, furniture, things like that, how do they protect that? And also, how do they protect your home that you either the one that you're leaving, or the one that you're going into to put carpet protectors down, know when you're going for a more expensive Perkins. So moving company, those are the things that you might want to expect. And those are the kinds of things that you absolutely should ask for. So you say right from the word go, what your expectations are. Because the last thing you want on a soggy winter's day in January is six or seven removal men traipsing back and forth with muddy feet in your brand new beautiful house that you've just bought with the cream carpet. And so you need to think about those kinds of things as well. Yeah, so protection is really important. Yeah.

Ingrid  13:29  
And I think the last thing I would like to mention on this and I think then we can move on to the next thing is that you cannot put dangerous liquids in a moving van. So anything that probably has to do with gas or oil or anything other that is exploitable, cannot be put into moving

Lesley  13:48  
flammables and flammable. Yeah, and then dangerous liquids and things like Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah.

Ingrid  13:53  
Let's move on to primo planning, then Lesley. Okay.

Lesley  13:57  
So everything's ticking along quite nicely. illegals are all happening, you know that you're getting closer to your exchange or your completion of your completion date. So what are the kinds of things that you need to think about really. So it may be that you downsize it, and in which case, you might have stuff that's not going with you to the next house, but it's going somewhere else, and maybe it's going off to charity, maybe it's going off to your daughter's or two sisters or something like that, you may have to think about getting a smaller removal vehicle, maybe a man with a van service to take some of your stuff off to someone else. So that needs to be thought about and planned. Yeah, I think one of the things in terms of if we want to sort of call it paperwork, you know, there's sort of things that you've got to do like utilities, which we're going to come on to in a minute. In terms of moving house and change of addresses. One of the things that people sometimes come unstuck over is broadband because quite often and it takes a couple of weeks doesn't it for for you to plan broadband and to swap it over. Yeah, that's the kind of thing that sometimes you want to do in advance. Otherwise you'll find yourself at the other end without broadband. Yeah,

Ingrid  15:01  
yeah, definitely. And I think you also need to make sure that you set up a redirection of your posts. So you can sort that out via the post office. And also start thinking about what kind of people and other places need to be informed of your change of address. So maybe you can start making a list in a notebook, or maybe you can go to your paperwork system and start to create a list of things that need to be informed, you probably want to wait with actually sending them the change of address, but it's quite a lot of work to kind of get all of that underway. So you want to do some prep on that as well.

Lesley  15:37  
Yeah, and it's gonna very much the way that you tackle that is going to very much dependent on the type of systems you've got in place. So for me, my paperwork system as you would hope is. And so I wouldn't necessarily use a checklist, I would literally go through, I have a filing cabinet has literally go through it one section at a time, and pull the things out there, pull things out of that and say, right, I need to write a letter to them, or I need to go online to do that, or whatever. And so I would be comfortable that I would have all bases covered by going through that filing cabinet like that. But if your paperwork is a little bit scattered all over the place, and it's a little bit more chaotic, perhaps you need a checklist and to go through to remind you, right, you need to do credit cards. Now you need to do store cards, now he needs to do mortgage now and so on. Yeah. And

Ingrid  16:21  
use it for your work and the school and the dentist and doctor and utilities. And it's quite it's surprising how many people actually, it's a lot of work.

Lesley  16:31  
Yeah, and for a lot of people, sometimes it takes six months to get to the point wherever you know, all of your addresses are correct.

Ingrid  16:38  
Yeah. And that's why they offer with the redirection shows, they do offer different times that you can actually have your post for today as well. So I think I actually took the year option because I just knew that three or six months was too short for me. I wanted to make sure I had all my posts and forward and I had time to inform all the people about my change of address. Now, there's some automates I think we need to talk about in pre move planning, because maybe you're lucky enough that property that you're moving to is already empty, or you are lucky enough that you're going to be able to sort out some things today you've moved in. So maybe I don't know, how about your move. But I think you were telling me that you've already booked a painter and decorator. Yeah, for the house move.

Lesley  17:22  
Yeah, so I went in with my clients. And we worked out we wanted to do some painting, and that it needs a little bit of a freshen up. So I've already pre planned so we move. So the pack is Thursday. The move is Friday, we'll do some unpacking. But not all of it on Saturday. Monday, the decorator comes in Friday, the carpet cleaner comes in. So it's all sounds nice. And as long as it happened. I everybody does.

Ingrid  17:46  
Sounds very, very organised.

Lesley  17:48  
But let's hope that it is. How organised it is. But yeah, I think those are the kinds of things because then what you don't want to do is you don't want to unpack all your stuff. And then four weeks later, get a decorator you know, so if you can pre plan though, yeah, you know, but that's very reliant, then only having a specific completion date and knowing what that is in advance. And yeah, kind of simultaneously completing an exchange on the same day. Yeah. And so and those kinds of things take the stress out of it a little bit. In actual fact, this has been a very stress free so far, fingers crossed Touchwood how smooth, it's been quite nice.

Ingrid  18:20  
I would also say that if you can clean as much of the house, the new house as soon as you come in. So I know people are you know, they're unpacking. But before you start to put stuff away in cupboards and in kitchens, make sure you have a Hoover and a cloth and everything and clean that out before you start to put stuff in. Because it's probably the only time in a very long time afterwards that you're gonna have an empty shell to work with.

Lesley  18:45  
And it's quicksand Yes, you can clean a kitchen and you've got empty shelves. Yeah, even if you just do the shelves. Yeah. And then you tackle the tops of the cupboards and things. I mean, ideally, we'd like to think that the person has left the property would leave it nice and clean. But

Ingrid  19:00  
we Yes. That would be nice

Lesley  19:04  
experience on that. But you can't as we said before, you can't have an impact on what somebody else does. You can only manage your own bit of it. And so, yeah, I would always you know, the client that I'm working with, we've had cleaners and to thoroughly clean the whole house too. And then I'll just do the final bit of the clean with her on the day before we move. And so you know, it's important, but you can't you it's sometimes very disappointing the way that people leave their houses. Yeah. Yeah. through other people, I would have much more pride in that and it would be probably the cleanest it's ever been because I would hate someone's be talking about me, but yeah, yeah, so you never Yeah,

Ingrid  19:37  
no, I completely agree with you. So let's then talk about the preparation that we need to do for the handover to the new owner because there's also some things that we want the new owner to know of the houses we're actually selling.

Lesley  19:49  
Yeah, so that smooth transition really Yeah. So you need to make sure that the person that's buying your house knows all those things that they're going to be worried about, you know, when it's been day where is the manual for the oven where kind of find the stopcock. What? You know, have you done a metre reading? Obviously, you need to do metre readings when you leave for both things that you can get that and nails. Yeah, so those were, where

Ingrid  20:08  
are the metres? Where are the where's the boiler, where's the fuse box?

Lesley  20:12  
Exactly all of those things. And you know, and it just needs to be, you know, ideally on your work surface, a nice little letter, it's nice gifts, and welcome, people might live bottle of wine or some flowers. I'm not suggesting it's not essential. But that's quite a nice thing to do when someone moves in, but just with a note saying, these are all the things that you need to know. And then put all the manuals, perhaps either in a drawer in a kitchen drawer or something like that, or somewhere that someone can find them all.

Ingrid  20:38  
And also, I think if there is a specialist service, a special stone or special wood in your house that needs a certain cleaning solution, then maybe you want to leave that behind if you don't need it in your new house, and maybe put an extra in the note saying this is a specialist stone or tile and it needs this type of cleaning. And here's the thing. Yeah, because that I think is really, really helpful.

Lesley  21:01  
Just those little strange things about your house that you know, it's going to be much easier if you tell somebody about before you kind of move in.

Ingrid  21:09  
Yeah. So then we are Are we there? Is that everything we need to mention about the handover to the new owners?

Lesley  21:16  
I think so. Yeah, just to be nice to them to try and tell them everything that you think they need to know really

Ingrid  21:21  
excellent. So now we are in the day before the move, or just a couple of days before the move a lot to do a lot to do on that day, I would definitely make sure that you gather what you need overnight. So make an overnight bag or just in case maybe an overnight bag for two nights in case it all goes horribly wrong or you or something happens. So you have some stuff with you that you can set up.

Lesley  21:47  
Again, it's gonna be very dependent, isn't it? Oh, yeah. On what your family situation is? And so have you got kids? So then do you need to keep school books back in school bags to get them off to school? Yeah, have you got medication that you need to worry about over those couple of days, you know, those are the important things,

Ingrid  22:02  
you've got pets that maybe maybe you can go to a category or a special place for dogs. So they feel happy and safe. And they're not running around, being panicky, and you get your hands free to really focus on your house move,

Lesley  22:16  
because it's just a little bit of an upheaval, isn't it. And that's where the kind of where the preparation for The move comes in, doesn't it, that's where your label in a box says. And if you have got the moving company coming in to do the packing, that's where you need to label things up, make sure they know exactly what's going where if there's something that's really important that needs to be unpacked first, like bedding, for example. Yeah, like medication, like things for the kids, whatever that may be. And that's going to be different for every person that you have identified those maybe by using a post it note or something like that, on certain things as you go around the house so that the removal company know exactly what's going where it's also important, if the layout of your new house is different to the one that you're coming from. So quite often, they'll just they'll write on the box says master bedroom, you know, it might be different in your new house. And you know, so you need to think about that. And think about that actually plan for them writing everything out of this bedroom is gone into bedroom three, or bedroom four, or whatever that might be, and things like that. Because you know, often people go into bigger homes, when they move in as well. And the amount of more rooms and things like that. So really think about the logistics, the more planning that you can do. And the more communication that you can do with your packers. That is what makes for a smooth things because as you rightly said, when they come in to pack up and to move yet they are like oh lightning, yeah, go so fast. And so you need to be one step ahead of them every time

Ingrid  23:39  
and also be be very, very clear the stuff that should not be packed. For example, I had a wonderful, beautiful American fridge freezer and one of those big ones. And it was not going to go to Ireland with me at the time, unfortunately. So a friend of mine had to collect it. So I actually had to put a red sticker on it saying, please do not pack this because otherwise it would have been one of the first things that would have been put in the truck. So be very clear in your communication. And also don't forget to handle your valuables yourself. So things like passports or important jewellery or anything like that. I think that you need to make sure that you handle yourself and make sure that it's in a safe place at all times.

Lesley  24:22  
I was just thinking when you were talking about the moving company, and not taking things and communicating with them. The one thing that they never pack is the kettle and the tea and coffee. Always. Let's say you can make them copious amounts of cups and tea throughout the movie.

Ingrid  24:37  
And having said that, so don't forget your spoons and your mugs and you're hitting your coffees and teas and your sugars. And so you can actually that's the last thing that goes into the box and the first box that comes out of that van trust me. One other tip I wanted to give you if you have beds with that are ticketed with screws and things like that. Make sure you put them in a freezer bag taped into the piece of furniture. So you don't lose that little Backpage cruise, that's somewhere out there somewhere.

Lesley  25:07  
I think, you know, we've talked a lot about using a moving company, the principles are exactly the same if you like yourself, yeah. You know, be organised, level up your boxers know what you're doing protect your furniture, to try and do that as best you can as well. So even if you're doing a DIY move, or you're getting a friend to help you, it might be that if you've got a smaller van, it might have to go in two or three loads. But just think about the logistics of the way that's going to work. Try and get your big furniture in there first, and then your boxes in there second. So but you know, but just know, it's all about being realistic, really, but know your own limitations. You know, don't get do a DIY house move that's going to absolutely kill you. Because it's hard. You know, to me, make sure that you've got the right people in place that are used to logging things around, and things like that. And maybe actually, if you've got to spend another four or 500 pounds, get any moving company, maybe it's money well spent. Yeah,

Ingrid  25:58  
if you've got and if someone offers to help, and you're not completely sure, maybe you can put them on coffee and tea duties, because there's a lot of people that need to be fed and be you know, you need to make sure that somebody makes some sandwiches or get some sandwiches or goes to the bakery have made cups of teas. That's a jump in itself alone. If you've got four or five movers or a man with a fan and people helping everybody needs to be taken care of as well. Because then everybody's gonna be a lot happier.

Lesley  26:23  
Yeah, you know, if people are for help taker, because moving is stressful, and there's lots of jobs that needs to be allocated, as you rightly say, making cups of tea and coffee or taking the kids to school, driving to the association to pick the kids up, you know, things like that, you know, you've got all that going on. It's super stressful. Isn't the number one most stressful thing that we have? Isn't it always comes up? Really? Yeah, yeah. And some are more stressful than others. But you know, by having a little bit of foresight and thinking about things in advance and planning, and being quite organised with things, it just makes it a little bit less stressful.

Ingrid  26:56  
Right. Excellent. Is there anything else we need to mention Lesley? Or do you think we've got the highlights covered here?

Lesley  27:03  
I think I'm gonna have to feed back after my house.

Ingrid  27:06  
I know, we want to know how you did. If you did a good job.

Lesley  27:10  
Exactly. You know, that takes me on actually, that's that's quite an important point as well. I mean, obviously, the house means that I'm doing is in my role as professional organiser with the clutter fairy. And so and that's something that I do quite regularly. So the client I'm working with would find it too stressful to do that on her own, she is on her own. And so she's taken me on to help her through that whole process for the two or three days, I'll be there for the packing day, for the moving day and for the day after. And so you know, that know that there are professional organisers or house moving specialists out there that can help you. If you would struggle to do that on your own. And know that sometimes, again, that takes the stress out of things, if you can afford it, think about it as an option.

Ingrid  27:49  
Right. brilliant advice. So what do you think, listeners? Are you planning a house move? And was this podcast helpful for you? Do you feel you're on top of everything? Or do you actually think to yourself now Hmm, maybe I should get some extra help. You know, maybe I should get a professional organiser to in to help me and make it all go much, much smoother. So thank you so much for taking the time to listen today. If you'd like to get more tips and advice, please follow us on social media. We're on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook and we've got a lovely lively supportive Facebook group community where we chat all things clutter. We'd love to see you there. And if you don't want to miss the next weekly episode, subscribe to declutter her podcast on iTunes, Spotify and Stitcher and it will pop into your notifications each Friday. See you next time.

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