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Episode 81 – When your motivation to declutter has gone

Is your motivation to declutter gone? In this episode we discuss the impact that lockdown is having on us all. We had all good intentions to sort our homes out while spending more time at home but for some of us our mojo is sapped and our motivation to declutter is gone. How do we make steps to get our motivation back and should we even worry about it?

It's not easy to make positive steps each day when we are experiencing such unusual circumstances. Self care and taking one day at a time is paramount but if your motivation to declutter is gone and you want to get it back, there are a few things to think about.

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Intro  0:07  
Welcome to today's episode of the declutter hub podcast, your channel for super easy, no nonsense advice on how to declutter and organise your home. Please welcome your host professional organisers, Ingrid Jansen, and Lesley Spellman.

Ingrid  0:31  
Hello, and welcome listeners to Episode 81 of the Declutter Hub Podcast. I'm Ingrid. And I'm Lesley, if you have clutter and want to short it out, this is the podcast for you. Now, in today's episode, Lesley, and I wanted to talk to you about something very interesting that came up in our live q&a last week. So one of our members said to us that when Lockton happened, she was actually not too dismayed about it, because she thought it would be a great opportunity to get like all his household jobs, and all those little things on a list and all the decluttering jobs done. But she's realised that her reality that it's really, really different and she feels really unsettled. And she finds it all really surreal. And she just realised that her motivation and determination have come really become sapped, and she's been chatting to her friends, and they were like, Yeah, we feel the same. So she was wondering, how do I get that mojo to declutter my house? Alcoa? How do I get the back I was doing so well. And now I'm feel like a fallen off the rails. So we just thought it was such a good topic. And that's why we've again, as per usual, thrown our whole podcast schedule out the window. And we realised that is such a good question. So let's see, we decided we want to answer this question, don't we?

Lesley  1:53  
Yeah, when it came up in our live q&a Last week, we thought this is really interesting, because this, this is something that we're hearing quite a lot. I mean, our job here at the declutter hub is obviously to try and motivate people to declutter their houses. But we are also all about keeping it real. And so we're not Yes, use this opportunity to do some decluttering. If that's what you want to do, then go for it. But equally, we fully understand that not everybody is in that place at the moment. And it might be that you are today, and you're not tomorrow, you are this week, but you're not next week. I think it's so different, and so changeable, the way that it's affecting all of our moods, and it is going to continue to change that we thought it was something worth exploring.

Ingrid  2:34  
Yeah, for sure. Because we all live at the moment in completely unprecedented times. None of us have ever before been struck down by this virus, that it's impacting our everyday way of life. And we've never had to deal with the emotion, the fallout of this kind of new reality. And we're all trying to find our way, how we handle this current situation. So we were all trying as best we think that we can handle it.

Lesley  3:04  
Yeah, I think one of the most difficult parts of it certainly for me, is the fact that it's so open ended. So you don't know how long it's going to be, you know, if you had a plan and said, Right, okay, so we're down for another four weeks. Now, before we get out of this, let's think about what we're going to do. But, you know, the thought that this might still be months away, is quite depressing, isn't it? You know, I think also we've got people with anxiety before this happens. And their anxiety is going to be through the roof. But and we've got people who really struggle with health, worry about the impact on the health, there are so many facets to this, that need exploring. And sometimes I know you have to respond to it in the way that you see fit. But sometimes, you have to shield yourself or other people that have in different emotions. So if you're feeling positive, and you're like, you don't want to be brought down by people that are feeling negative, or vice versa, you know, so you have to protect yourself in that way as well. Because we're not going through the same thing at the same time. And our normal outlets, for helping ourselves or getting through this, which is talking to family, seeing friends going out enjoying yourself going to the cinema or going for dinner, or normal outlets to deal with this kind of thing. I've just taken away from us. And so we are really restricted with our normal coping mechanisms as well, aren't we?

Ingrid  4:20  
Yeah, for sure. And I mean, until now, I'm feeling quite okay. But we had a whole chat about it didn't realise it. I'm like, I'm feeling good now. But it might all be different next week. You know, you never know how you're going to respond and what kind of way if it feels a bit like a roller coaster, we're on to something we can't get off. At the moment. I feel like okay, I do feel so positive that we can work on the declutter happen and are here to inspire in a Facebook group and we can doing the know we're doing these podcasts, to chat to everybody. But you never know what might happen and it might go next week. Oh my gosh, when is this going to end? I don't know how I feel about it right now. But for now. I'm trying to stay this way. Should the frame of mind but it's, it's not always very easy. You know, you just have to deal with it however you can. Yeah,

Lesley  5:09  
I think firstly, I think the most important thing for me and I am no expert on this, you know, I am lucky that at this moment in time, I've not been adversely affected by it at all, it's just about the impact on my movement really more than anything else, I'm just stuck at home. Other than that, there's been Touchwood, no changes to it at the moment. So I've not had any problems economically, financially, health wise, some super, super lucky and I realised that I think the most important thing for me is to be mindful of the way this is impacting other people. So just this morning, we decided to do the sort of standard thing that we're all doing at the moment, which is a really lovely thing, which is to set up a zoom call with all of our friends. On that WhatsApp message I said, sent out, if you don't feel up to it, or you don't think it's going to be positive thing for you, then don't feel obliged to do it. There's no obligation because even if you change your mind 10 minutes before, because we really are on a roller coaster. And so I think the most important thing for me is to be mindful that this is affecting everybody in a completely different way. And at completely different times. So being mindful is the number one thing I think for me. Yeah. And I think

Ingrid  6:18  
also, for me, what's really important, be kind to yourself, you know, we are all dealing with it in a different way. So don't think, Oh, well, everybody else is just getting on with it. And everybody else is doing stuff, and I'm not doing anything and then be negative to yourself, I think we have to really drop the judgement to ourselves and just go, You know what, I'm dealing it the best way I can, I'm just going to be kind to myself, I'm gonna listen to my own body, I'm going to listen to how my own state how I feel. And from there, I'm going to take steps forward and not look around what everybody else is doing. Because I think you just get overwhelmed and just think that you're not in the right. state of mind. That's not going to help anybody.

Lesley  7:03  
Yeah. So it's important to sort of see that and to appreciate what other people are doing. But also to recognise that if you're not in that place to do that at the moment. So you can see on the Facebook group, there are some people that are completely motivated to spend their time decluttering and doing positive things. And equally, there are other people who are probably there's no way I can do that, that are probably feeling less good about themselves, because they're not doing anything. And that's really what we're here to talk about today, isn't it? Should we be obliged to be doing positive things with our time while we're in lockdown? You know what

Ingrid  7:35  
I think for me, there's just, you know, some people go into action, and others need time to get used to this new reality. And for me, there is no right or no wrong way. And I

Lesley  7:47  
think it's going to be different timewise as well, as let you know, like you say it, you know, you and I you know, we are lucky, we have been talking to each other every day, we have been making positive steps forward with the business. We took a few days off this weekend, because we needed it. And so we are fairly in tune with what each other needs for most of the time. And we're lucky to be able to chat and have a bit of you know, we do have a left wing, but that's the nice thing. So it's a quite a nice diversion to work with somebody that you like to be with is a nice thing, really. So we're lucky in that way. But equally, it can be different. As we said those moods can change depending on what's happening. The bad news, I think is starting to come through certainly for me at the moment we're starting to hear if those people dying at the moment, that wasn't the case last week, so that it's all starting to get very real isn't that you know, the the posts of people's parents dying is coming through on Facebook now that weren't last week. And so I think that it's going to change again, isn't it? So where does decluttering and routines and organising and your home fit into all this?

Ingrid  8:54  
Well, I think for me, that's it might sound really weird, but I think if you are even contemplating doing a little bit of decluttering I would say start with sleeping, which that sounds maybe really strange. But if you are well rested, then you feel better to take anything on. So if you're struggling with sleeping, what really helps, and I've been doing some reading on this, and a lot of people agree sleep is so important. And such a day whatever I'm trying to do as well as to go to bed better be better because I am terrible for staying up in the evening because I love my evenings and then I can't get out of bed in the morning. But I've said to myself, I really want to have to get up the same time every day. So I'm trying to be better at going to bed and having that same sleep amount of hours and having a little bit more than I usually have read has really helped me because I think because we can I am a very busy person. I love being busy and doing lots of different things and I think I run my battery a little bit too low. So for me, I feel really good at sleeping a little bit more at the moment, and I'm feeling more balanced. So I think that can really help I think to set your mood.

Lesley  10:14  
I think you and I spoke about this last week didn't in several, there were times in last couple of weeks where we've been, you know, we're both we're both the same, we kind of run our batteries fairly low. And we do work long into the evenings quite regularly. And so you then need your leisure time as well. So we're a little bit a bit of a cliche, but you and I are a little bit work hard play. Like such a cliche saying that. But yeah, I've been exhausted. So you know, normally my bedtime is probably half 11. Midnight, by the time I might go to bed at 11 o'clock. Bedtime, I faffed around on my phone, everything that you're not supposed to do with the white with the white screens, or whatever it is, it's probably midnight before I'm going to sleep and then up again at seven. The next day, I used to be a great sleeper, I used to be able to be sort of eight or nine hours a night, but that that ship has sailed. And so now I'm lucky if I get five or six hours. But I'm really tired. And so I'm definitely going to bed much earlier. But I believe that's the stress of what's going on, causes people to to be more tired. And so I don't know whether it you don't know, then again, do you don't know? Is it that or is it just because you're tired? Or because you don't need to stay up quite as late because there's not much to stay up for. So yeah, it's an interesting one, definitely important to get sleep and to try and retain. So I guess what you're saying is even if you've not got standard routines within your day, and within your working day, if you're not going to work if you've been furloughed or anything like that. It's important to keep those routines going for you and your family. Certainly. And sleep is the important part of that.

Ingrid  11:42  
Yeah, for sure, for sure. And the second thing I am doing at the moment during weekdays, Monday through Friday, I get up at seven and at 715. I've got my trainers on and my jogging outfit. And you know, it was so funny, like, literally yesterday, I had my in laws and my whole extended family on the phone like the might, you might say My husband has three two brothers. So we were all on the phone with the inlaws as well. And I was like, Yeah, I've been walking every day since 15. And my in laws when there are people who do not believe this. I don't think I even believe it myself that I'm actually doing this. But I have proof, which is my daughter has been going with me every morning at 715 for just a walk about 40 minutes, 50 minutes, depending on what kind of what circle we do. And I'm really, it has helped me tremendously because I know for myself, as soon as I start my day and I stopped doing my emails and I start helping the kids and puttering around. I cannot find that time later in the day. That just I know myself just like if I want to do anything, I need to put that immediately the beginning of the day. And then I know that's been done. And the weather has been amazing. So it's been really, really lovely. But there are people like that we don't believe this that because they know I hate getting up in the morning. So but it has helped me to get that fresh air every day to you because we're only allowed out to go either to the to the shops or to the pharmacy or do some walking here in the UK. So I've been really doing that exercise Monday to Friday, I've been a bit more lazy over the weekend. But Monday to Friday I've been walking in, it's dealing with a world of good honestly, well, that's good,

Lesley  13:21  
still not still not into the idea of 715 Walk. But I can see that I'm not going to change your mind about that I am doing and I'm normally with you. So I normally if I am going to do exercises I run normally. And I do that do that at the beginning of the day, not of course by seven by the way, but kind of normally half a quarter to nine. I'm out running before my day starts. But I'm, I'm working with my son and daughter, my husband sometimes if he's around us, and we're going at 430 Every day, which is quite nice as well, and kind of breaks the day up a little bit. And as you say it has been amazing weather. So I set myself a new target last week, which was to do 5k walk every day. So I've got to do 5k, which is around 55 minutes, somewhere 50 to 60 minutes to get that 5k. And so I'm going to try and do that all week. That's my target. And I think some part of it for me is they might say you can't do any exercise any day. You know, we might watch one of those press briefings. They're like nope, no more exercise, you've got to stay in your garden. And then I'll be gutted if I didn't go out the previous day from my walk. And so I'm like we need to get back the walks in well, we can just in case anything changes. So yeah, sleeping and walking really, really critical. I mean, that's just for general wellbeing, but it's really important at the moment. So we've talked about the fact that it's important to be mindful of the way that other people are dealing with this situation. We've talked about being kind to yourself as well. We've talked about routine a little bit trying to maintain normal routines. So what about the people who had great intentions to declutter during this lockdown, but just can't see a way through. What do we do in that situation? Is it a bad thing? Should we be doing it courtroom? Is it a good thing? What What? What are we saying about that? Ingrid? For me,

Ingrid  15:04  
I'm like, if you do not fancy any decluttering at the moment, just leave it a little while just leave it. Because I think you need to be almost in the mood to do a bit of decluttering. And if yes, of course, you have to motivate yourself to do it. I don't always fence. I mean, yes, I'm a professional organiser, I always fence into sorting out the cupboards. But that still means you know, you have to kind of go yes, I'm going to do that today. So if you are like, Oh my gosh, I am not fancy this at all. And don't let it go. And don't be hard on yourself that they're like, Okay, I haven't done it. What I would say to you, so make sure you then stay on top of your little household jobs, do your washing up, empty your bins, bring out your recycling, if you can do a bit of laundry, you know, all of those little normal kind of bits and bobs that you would normally do anyway. See if you can at least do those. So you don't go backwards, stay where you are, and get those little jobs done. You kind of take let things take over nicely. And then when you start to feel a bit more positive again, then you can kind of go okay, and feel a bit more ready now. But if you do not finish it, by all means, leave it. What do you think Lesley? Oh, yeah,

Lesley  16:27  
I could not could not agree more. That's your term that I couldn't agree more. Like saying it's time to saying things now that you're could not agree more absolutely could not agree more. For sure. I'm gonna say all these. Taken on your anyway, I couldn't agree more. Because the thing is about decluttering, as you've said, You've called it had been in the mood actually involves a lot of focus. That's why as part of our decluttering, one of the thing is we talk about preparing your mind preparing your body, this is not something that you can just suddenly randomly say, Yeah, I'm gonna do that. You need to prepare for it. And so it does involve a lot of focus. Even if I'm working with a client, if they ring me and said, You know what, I've had a really bad night, not feeling great. My anxiety is through the roof, feeling a little bit down today. Normally, I would say, let's leave it until the day when you feel a little bit better about yourself. So the normal circumstances decluttering is not something that you need to be doing yet when you're on a down day. Of course, sometimes it can make you feel better about yourself as well, if you do, push yourself into that place where you do a little bit, but you need to understand the way that you work. I think you're absolutely right. What we don't want is we don't want your house to slip back. You know, we're in our homes, we can't really go anywhere else. And so we need to make sure that our homes are working well for us. So don't let those daily routine slip. Make sure you make your bed every day do the washing up. As Ingrid said, keep on top of the laundry, keep on top of the ironing small wins, just to make sure that things are ticking along nicely. Because it's easy sometimes, isn't it when no one else is coming in to let those standards slip? Because you think, Well, who cares? Because no one else has seen it apart from me. So it's important to kind of try and keep on top of those things, too. But absolutely, if you don't want to do any decluttering, there is absolutely no reason for you to have to do that at the moment. But it's there for you if you want to do it. And there are many people out there who do want to do it. Even if you're feeling a little bit down about things, there still have got this sort of niggling thing at the back of your mind saying I really, really want to make these positive steps forward during lockdown, but I'm struggling. So what's your advice to people who think you know what, yeah, I do want to do a bit. Give me some advice on how I can start and how I can make this work when I'm not feeling 100%? Well, I

Ingrid  18:39  
think what is really important it make your jobs and your goals what you want to do really small. We all have a tendency to go, I'm going to declutter the whole room, I'm going to sort out my whole loft, I'm going to tackle my whole kitchen, that even in normal circumstances, if I can go is already too far too big of a goal. So start breaking down the project in small, small, small bits, and make them even smaller than usual. So normally, you might say okay, I'm going to have a look at my kitchen and today I'm going to do all my cutlery and all my utensils. I've broken my kitchen down in small projects, and cutlery and utensils is on my list of things to do today. I would say during this time, if you're trying to get some almost decluttering mojo back, say, I'm going to do my cutlery. And I'm going to do my teaspoons today. That's how small I'm talking about here. And then say tomorrow, I'm going to look at my knives and tomorrow I'm going to look at my forks. And the day after I'm going to look at my utensils. I'm only going to look at my wooden spoons. And the day after I'm going to look at my other my pastor strainers and that's how small I mean break In down the project, so you can almost give yourself that little pat on the back and go, yay. I wasn't up for anything. But I looked at my teaspoons today, so I am doing something positive, and really celebrate those wins. What do you think, Lesley?

Lesley  20:18  
Exactly what exactly what you're saying, because it's important to get those goals small. And then if you think you know what, that wasn't so painful, I can do more than my teaspoons. And then you achieve your teaspoons and your forks, then you've done twice as much as what you intended. And so your wins, celebrating your wins feels better, because you've done more than you expected, rather than less. And so it's really, really, really important to break this right down to something super, super small.

Ingrid  20:47  
Yes. And I think I you know, I you know, I love a list, Lesley, I do love a list. So maybe you can make a little list for yourself. It can be you know, a piece of scrap paper where you put you know, so you can actually crochet through when you've done it and go, you know, what, what do I really want to sort out for example, in my kitchen, I want to look at my Tupperware and I want to look at my mugs, and I want to look at my cutlery, and I'm gonna look and break that down, and then crush it through or take it off the list. So you're like, yes. And that way you feel positive about it, instead of thinking, Oh, well, I made a go of the culture of my whole kitchen. And now I haven't even done anything yet. So I think it's your mindset might want to change a little bit.

Lesley  21:34  
Yeah, and you know, what's also really good thing to do. If you've already done a job that morning, write it on your list and then cross it you're done even more? Do you ever do that? Even if you've done five things, these are my girls for today, write them down and cross them out straight away, like check me out. Look how many things I've done. So that's also fine in the decluttering world, isn't it? ticking off things that you've already done?

Ingrid  22:04  
I do that all the time. I seriously on my personal list or my workplace. I'm thinking oh, oh, I've done that. But it wasn't on my list. Let me write it down. And then oh, this makes me laugh so much. Because it's really, really true. I do that all the time. I think also, maybe, maybe if you want to make a little list and made it you go, these are my five things, empty the bins do the washing up. And so you can cross them off. You know, you have to do every day. But there's something about crossing off things from a list that it shows.

Lesley  22:39  
Exactly. So ideally, when you're making your list, don't do put 10 things on that you've already done. Also going to put something on the list that you've not done yet. But you know, if you want to feel good about yourself, just write 10 things I did on that morning and it's fine. Crazy times crazy measures. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, that's on your list, tick it off straightaway. No, I think Brett, you're absolutely right, Ingrid breaking things down into these really small chunks. That was our advice. Remember, last week on the live q&a, wasn't it? It's just understanding your own goals. So we talk all the time about smart goals. Now if you haven't heard about smart goals, they are specific, measurable, achievable, realistic, and timely. So just to whisk through those quickly, specific today, I am going to declutter and organise my teaspoons. Measurable, you can measure that because you can see how many teaspoons you had before in the drawer and after? So you can say whether or not you've done that achievable? Yes, it certainly is achievable for most people that day. As long as you're feeling up to it. Realistic. Is it a realistic goal for today? Something like that probably is realistic if you're feeling okay, because it's only a five minute job. Timely is the one that's tricky at the moment. Because is it the right time. So if it's not the right time for you, jumping back to what we were saying at the beginning, leave that girl for another day?

Ingrid  23:59  
Yes. And we did a really good podcast last week, didn't we, Lesley about what you can declutter. Now the charity shops are closed. So if you're thinking to yourself, Okay, well, kitchen is not going to be really helpful because I know there's a lot of stuff in there that I want to bring to the charity shop, listening to the podcast that we did last week, with all loads of suggestions of items you could have a look at, that will not create bags and bags full of stuff, but all kinds of smart options for you to do now you can't bring your items away.

Lesley  24:33  
And the nice thing about some of those if you if you feel you know, I've not even got enough, get up and go to get up off the sofa. I'm just sitting there watching TV, which is perfectly fine. A lot of these little decluttering tasks can be done simultaneously while sitting on the sofa because they're digital. You can scroll through your phone, you can get rid of contacts or things that we were split that we were talking about last week. So listen into last week's podcast it was the infamous episode at which we recorded three or four times So episode 80 what we did last week, I can't believe we've gotten to 81. Impressive. As I say we have. So how many times have we done episode 81?

Ingrid  25:10  
Three times. And now Episode Sorry, Episode 80, we did three times. This episode, this is the second version, we had one completely lined up ready to go. It's not gonna happen. I think we've moved it to next week. Let's see. So we need to record a new intro.

Lesley  25:27  
Yet we've moved it to next week until next week, when we come up with another idea of what we can do. Anyway, we love recording podcasts. And what's the problem, we just record them over and over? Yeah. Anyway, so hopefully that has been a little bit helpful. I hope it's not been too negative. Because we don't like to be negative, really. But I think it's really important for us to be realistic. And these are very strange times. And we are all dealing with them in very different ways. Do not feel guilty because other people are doing loads and loads of positive things. And you feel like you should be doing that too. If you're not up for it, leave it you need to look after yourself, you need to exercise self care. And self care looks different to different people.

Ingrid  26:10  
Yeah, for sure. And you know what, maybe this time you actually speaking to a couple of your friends more on the telephone, because you're all at home, and you've got more time to chat. And maybe that's actually a really good thing. I feel that although I'm not doing any decluttering I feel that having those connections with other people is really enriching my life. So if your reward of if you're not decluttering, but you still are, you know what, I want to do something positive, reach out to a family member or a friend that you haven't spoken to in a long time. And maybe you can write them a little card or just phone them up or give him a WhatsApp and just reach out to people. And I think those those human connections are really, really important now so and maybe you set yourself up, I am going to set myself a tiny little decluttering task today. And as a reward, I'm going to call my friend and be with her on the phone for half an hour and have a nice little chinwag. And that's my reward for for doing a tiny little decluttering job.

Lesley  27:09  
Can I just pull you up on one little thing that you said Ingrid? Yes. You said you had not done any decluttering now that is a Feb, because in lockdown you have done Max's bedroom, bedroom, the Understairs cupboard, the sewing basket, just that I remember. What else have you done? Why did you say no? Definitely close? Because that because basically, we have to continue decluttering because we have to record videos for our membership. We're decluttering like crazy, because we've got time to declutter at the moment. So yeah, I was like, she's just said she's not doing any decluttering or show that's entirely honest.

Ingrid  27:50  
I don't really I don't think I realised I said it that way. I think it meant more that maybe our listeners are not doing any decluttering.

Lesley  27:58  
Well, we'll see. We'll see how it comes out in the Edit show away. Yes,

Ingrid  28:01  
yes, yes. But yes, Lesley, I have been doing a bit of decluttering. Because I that's just I think maybe my way to deal with the situation is that I think you know what, it makes me feel good. So maybe I've done a bit more decluttering than normal, because I know it it makes me feel good when I do but it's decluttering. So Lesley, thanks so much for outing me. I don't think I said I didn't do any decluttering. So in the edited version of this podcast, we'll listen in and see exactly what I said about decluttering or not.

Lesley  28:32  
But the one thing that you that you failing to see is that I had no one that does the editing. So I will edit it, so that I'm right. So obviously, so we do have one request for you all. So we've done now this is episode 81 with an eight to one podcast, which I know lots of you are loving. And so I'm saying please, please, please, please, please, can you leave us a review? Can you share the podcast we want more people to listen? Those reviews are absolutely critical to where we rank in the charts. Yeah, there are podcast charts and we're in them we do okay, but we really want to do better. Don't we end with just a little one to say what you enjoy about the podcast, whether you like listening to Ingrid and I whether you like the topics. If you found the podcast that really resonated with you, please leave us a review. You can do on our website, if you want to do that, if that's where you listen to our podcast, or you can do it in your podcast player, Apple podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify and iHeartRadio. It really, really will make a massive difference to what we're doing. So pretty pleased that you do that for us.

Ingrid  29:34  
So yes, listeners, we've now done three really interesting podcasts all about decluttering during lockdown. So even if your friends are not into decluttering maybe they think to themselves, you know what we're all at home. We are tackling a few little areas in and around our houses. Shout out those podcasts on social media as well. So your friends, your family can have a listen to us as well. So listeners basically we just say Be kind to yourself hanging in there. Thanks for listening and we really, really happy you're here and we can inspire you and motivate you during this really strange times. If you'd like to get more tips and advice, please follow us on social media. We are an Instagram, Twitter and Facebook as at declutter hub, and we've got a lovely supportive Facebook group called the declutter hub community. Come and find us there and join in the fun there. And if you'd like to know more about our membership, have a look at members dot declutter hub.com If you don't want to miss the next weekly episode, subscribe to the declutter hub podcast on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher and iHeartRadio. And it will pop into your notifications each Friday. See you next time.

Outro  30:47  
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Max says:

11 December 2023 at 9:39 PM

This Declutterhub Podcast from April 2020 still so relevant today!
Hey Lesley and Ingrid (the “Cleaning Queen”haha) and what does that make Lesley?
It’s Max from Melbourne Australia just popping in to sing your praises.
I’ve been doing my random “lucky-dip” into past episodes as sometimes listening again to these lockdown episodes during COVID has revealed some real GEMS for self care.
I swear Apple / Spotify / Amazon etc could put your podcasts under the Mental Health / Self Care / Self Improvement categories as you both provide tangible, self supportive methods to check in with ourselves.
Learning to manage our energy and mindset while keeping our environment an expression of ourselves and enjoyable place to live in is pure gold.
Thank you both for keeping it real.
Even on my flattest of days you remind me to be kind to myself and always, always remind me to laugh about it.
You’ve unknowingly created a wonderful podcast here for people with disabilities / chronic illness and overwhelm as this episode reminded us all to take it easy when we’ve been pressuring ourselves too much. (A common thread for people managing chronic pain issues)
Thanks again, for the support the skills and the laughs.
(Dec 2023)

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Ann says:

25 May 2020 at 8:53 PM

Hi Lesley & Ingrid,
I was out of my Decluttering mood for the past 4 weeks, having to deal with a relative in hospital. During this Coronovirus Pandemic it’s extremely difficult not having access to relatives, trying to speak to medical staff on the telephone. I seem to have spent 3-4 hours each day just making calls. Today I decided to listen to your Podcast 81 When your Motivation to Declutter has gone. I am starting afresh tomorrow and plan going back to look at my Boot camp notes and tweek the sections to fit my needs.
So thank you for re-inspiring me once more.
Ann M 😊📖🌷🏋🏽‍♀️🤹🏼‍♀️

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1. Lesley Spellman says:
  
  29 May 2020 at 8:53 PM
  
  Thanks Ann. So glad we have helped you get your mojo back. Stick with it – and remember those small manageable chunks.
  Lesley x
  
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