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Episode 138 – How to keep momentum when decluttering

In this episode, we are talking about how to keep momentum when decluttering. We use the Cycle of Success to explain how you can keep on track to reach your decluttering goals. The 8 step cycle will help you along the way.
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Intro  0:07  
Welcome to today's episode of The Declutter Hub Podcast, your channel for super easy, no nonsense advice on how to declutter and organise your home. Please welcome your host, professional organisers, Ingrid Jansen, and Lesley Spellman.

Ingrid  0:30  
Hello, and welcome listeners to Episode 138 of the developer hub podcast. I mean, great. I'm Lesley, if you have clutter and want to short it out. This is the show for you. Now, in today's episode, Lesley and I are talking about how to keep momentum when you're decluttering. Because Lesley, when you get it all the time, don't we? I've started but now I'm feeling so overwhelmed. Or I'm nearly there, but I'm just not finishing it. And it just feels too much to do when I'm distracted by something else. That's what we hear all the time, isn't it?

Lesley  1:05  
Yeah, it's that age old thing isn't it really is about momentum and keeping, keeping up keeping your mojo together, keeping momentum going, we all start in earnest, don't we, but we lose steam, as you say before the end. And that's a real problem for a lot of people. And so we thought it was worth talking about on our lovely podcast today. 

Ingrid  1:22  
Didn't we fully agree because it is so important. Because when we're in the middle of a decluttering project, and we get stopped in our tracks, and we get sidetracked by something else. And then when we want to go back, we were like, Oh, now I don't remember where I was. It's even more chaotic than it was last time what has happened? Why is all this other stuff now on top of the stuff that I was sorting, and II just end up in this vicious circle?

Lesley  1:49  
It didn't do and talking a vicious circles and grid. You let me so nicely into what we want to talk about because we have our own circle which which is not vicious, am I right?

Ingrid  2:01  
It's definitely not vicious. It's good. It's good. This cycle of success.

Lesley  2:08  
Yeah. So if you really want to think about how to keep momentum going, you have to have a process, don't you. And we as Ingrid said, we like to call it our cycle of success. And so in the declutter hub, we use this all the time. And this is what we encourage people to do. And it's so interesting, because what we found is that people jump into this cycle of success at lots of random places. And don't, don't always start at the beginning and go right through to the end, and then start the cycle again and start the cycle again. So it's interesting. So people, right, so let me give you an example of that, because that's quite difficult to explain, isn't it. So we are planning to do a big declutter of a room of doom this weekend. So the first thing we think about is to go out, rush out and buy some new storage. And so but actually, what you're going to see on our cycle of success is that storage comes much later in the cycle of success than the beginning. And so it's really important that we do this cycle in the order that we explain it to you now.

Ingrid  3:09  
Now, if you're thinking to yourself, Okay, I would love to see this cycle of success, because I know I'm gonna listen to you guys, when I'm driving, or I'm shopping, or and then I can't write it all down, we've actually created a graphic for you to have a look to see what we mean. So if you go to declutter hub.com, forward slash cycle, then you can see the graphic of the cycle of success. And we think that will help you with this podcast.

Lesley  3:38  
Okay, Ingrid. So we are going to embark on a decluttering project, it might be a big project, it might be a small project, what's the first thing that we need to do?

Ingrid  3:47  
The first step is planning your project. And it needs to go a bit further than I'm planning this weekend to tackle my rule of doom. That is a great flood. But it's not specific enough. You know, that's a nice kind of end vision of what do I want to achieve here? But the planning is all about, when am I going to do this? How I'm going to do this? Do I need help? Do I need to probably break down this project in a lot much smaller chunks. So actually, I can kind of do a make it make lists so I can take off the different projects that are part of this room by doing project. Planning is all about mapping out what you're going to do.

Lesley  4:33  
Yeah, exactly. And, you know, goals come into that as well. What's your goals is smart goals. manageability. Thinking about your own energy levels, what's achievable? You know, because we also set out with these big ideas, though, we have what we want to do all weekend, and we run out of steam. And so we need to think about what's the sensible amount of time for me to devote to a decluttering project. For some people that's 15 minutes a day. And for some people like you know what, I'm going to spend the whole weekend eight hours a day and that's absolutely fine and As is very much gonna depend on you and lots of external factors. But you really do need to think about that in advance because that's where a lot of people fall down at the first hurdle, isn't it? Ingrid?

Ingrid  5:09  
Yes, yes, planning is definitely a super important step in the cycle of success. Then we move on to start, you need to get started. Because it's so easy to think, let me have another cup of tea or order papers got name or order something interesting happening on Facebook, or let me call my friend, I'm not ready yet. I'm feeling a bit tired. Still. Let me just call somebody in and grab a knife to work with my mate. But then you're then half the day is going to be God isn't unless he did the hours just kind of dwindle away.

Lesley  5:44  
At the end of the day, we're all here because we struggle a little bit or have struggled a little bit in the past with decluttering. And so we are all going to be procrastinators. Aren't we great procrastinators in the decluttering world. And so starting is the thing that procrastination stops us from doing. And so you're absolutely right. At some point, we need to jump in and we need to get started. We need to make our plan and we need to get started. And where to start is going to form part of that plan, isn't it? So you know, what you don't want to do is go into the most difficult area of your home. First, you need to plan and think about it effectively. This is something that we do all the time in the declutter hub membership isn't in grid with our roadmap, we we do the planning for you. And we plan out what's the central order to do things in. And so it's important to think about what's going to be easy for me emotionally, what's going to be achievable for me timewise, for example, what have I got the cleaning products to clean, it might be something as well, I can't really do my garage, because I need this, this and this before I can do that I want to buy some shelving before I do that, or whatever that might be. So you've really got to think about that project. And do you have everything before you get started? But ultimately, at some point, you need to jump in there and just do it, don't you?

Ingrid  6:57  
Yes, yes. And I think when you set yourself a date and a time, and think exactly what you said, think about your own energy levels, you know, if you know you're not very, super strong in the morning, when you've just woken up, give yourself time to have a nice breakfast, and then say why after breakfast at 10 o'clock, that's why I'm gonna get started. Or, you know what I don't mind when I go from the afternoon into the evening, because I'm an evening person, then go right? I'm going to take that time off and don't then kind of go, Yeah, I'll go and meet friends or I'll go and do something else. I've got this TV programme that I want to watch. No, you are in this project. And you gave yourself that time you scheduled that time to get to the next step in your project.

Lesley  7:43  
Yeah, and you want it ultimately you'd be cited that you want it. So you need to do everything that you can to get there, don't you? Yeah. So I think this is a really tough one. Actually, it's a really important part of the cycle of success. And it in some ways it is the whole of decluttering almost, isn't it, which is we're going to move on to ask. And there are some very simple questions that we can ask ourselves some basic questions that we can ask ourselves, when we start to declutter. Now, there's a little caveat on that, because at the declutter hub, we're all about emotions. And so what we don't want to do is oversimplify things. Because there's an awful lot that goes into the emotions that hold us back from being able to make decisions. But if we want to put this in a very simple cycle of success, we're going to say after you've planned after you've started getting down to the nitty gritty of decluttering, and you're going to start asking yourself the basic decluttering questions which are in grid.

Ingrid  8:39  
Do I need it? Do I use it? Do I love it? And we can think of 50 other questions that you need to ask yourself, but those three are the ones that kind of are basic, and I keep coming back all the time. Do you actually need this item? Do you use it? And do you love it? And when you already say with one of these three? No, they didn't go? Ah, this is a conveyed to declutter from my house.

Lesley  9:10  
Yeah, exactly. And so I would love to go into the other 50 questions that you need to ask yourself that are a bigger Deep Dive. But the whole idea of this podcast is that we give you a framework, a structure to work with your decluttering it's not to delve into guilt and worry and all those emotions that hold us back. But we know it's not as simple as do I need it? Do I use it? Do I love it? But if you do ask those three questions, it gives you a really good starting point, doesn't it? Ingrid?

Ingrid  9:35  
Yeah, yeah. And I think I think a certain honesty comes in here as well. You know, do I need it? It's very easy to say yes. No, of course I needed it's in my house. I've bought it I spend money on it. Of course I need it. But do you actually really need it? Do you actually really love it? Or are you just keeping it because somebody else gave it to you? Or is it really that truly special item in your house that you can't do without And that you would actually move with you forever? Never, if you could. So although they're basic questions, it really I think focuses your mind to have a hard look at all the different items that are in a drawer in a cupboard in a room and kind of keep you moving forward and maybe make it easier for you to decide. Does it actually deserve the space here in my house? does it deserve my time to maintain it? Keep it, find a place for it, store it and put it somewhere so I can actually find it again? If you have renouncing, yes, it is important, then you keep it.

Lesley  10:41  
Definitely. And so we are whizzing through our cycle of success, this ask part is going to be quite a meaty part to be fair of the cycle of success, it's going to be the biggest probably part of the cycle of success. And sort of interspersed with this a little bit when we're asking ourselves questions, this is the time that we're actually going to start doing the next thing on the cycle of success, which is called sorting. And it's really, really critical that we sought, what we don't want is this big, jumbled mess of stuff. And we can't remember whether we decided to donate it to lose it to keep it to put it upstairs to clean it to do whatever we need to do we really have to sort. So we've got a good handle on what's going on with our projects, haven't we?

Ingrid  11:25  
Yes, and I think shorting is also definitely helping you categorise. And when you sort. If you've got a cupboard with lots of different kinds of things muddled in it, you need to sort it first. So for example, if it is a wardrobe, then you go right, I'm going to put my trousers together, my T shirts, together, my jackets together my tops together. That's what we mean with sorting, as well. And that's crucial, because then you can actually see how many you have of everything. And of course, in the meantime, while you're categorising, and sorting, you can already go oh, oh, that top is far too small items that can already be decluttered. So you can kind of declutter along the way. But having it into different piles, and have it in different categories will really, really help you while you're working on a project. If you're working for on a room of doom, a really chaotic room, you might want to create a different space for us, that is stuff from overflow from the kitchen. Oh, those are all memory stuff. Oh, those are all my suitcases and backpacks. So that's how you categorise in a room of doom. So you can start to see what lives in here. And then also you make a pile for that can be donated, that needs to be thrown away, or that needs to be recycled, and you start to get different piles of stuff everywhere.

Lesley  12:55  
Yeah, you do. And you know, I mean, people say a lot of times it gets worse before it gets better, doesn't it but you need this to be not to be chaotic. Once everything is going to come out of a cupboard or out of drawers or whatever, of course, it's going to look more chaotic than it did when everything was put away. So you have to be ready for that. But you need to have some kind of handle on that sorting and make sure that you know, this bin bag is for the charity, this big beanbag is for the recycling centre and so on. And so the asking and the sort and are very much going to be sort of flip flopping between each other, aren't they in grid at that point. And this is this is the most difficult part of it. And but you need to have complete control over it. So you know exactly what you're doing. And the interesting thing is as well, when you're sorting when you're gathering like with like, there may be things that you decided that you wanted to keep because they passed your basic decluttering questions like say, but actually, once you've seen once you've gathered like with like, you see how many of a certain item you've got. And just looking at the number that you've got, may well force you or encourage you then to make a different decision because you think, you know, I had no idea that I had 27 rolls of sellotape and perhaps I can get rid of a few of my donate a few of them. So the asking and the Salton is where you're going to be making those big decisions or where you're going to be making the most progress in terms of the declutter inside of your projects.

Ingrid  14:21  
It is so interesting, literally, because this is exactly what you're saying. Because the two of them are kind of connected to each other. But this is almost always the moment that people feel really overwhelmed and exactly like I'm now an hour and a half in and it's more even more chaotic than I. It's when I started. It's like completely out of control. I'm not losing. I'm losing the battle here. And then it's just very easy to go on. It's worse than it was before I'm going to stop. But this is that access to that tipping point when you have to kind of go I'm going to go on a little bit longer. I have to hang on now. I have to hang on Because from now on, it can only get better.

Lesley  15:04  
Yeah, and and also Ingrid, you know, we talked about this being a cycle just to jump back in the cycle. The reason why people get overwhelmed at this stage is because they've not done the planning and they've not got the equipment that they need to do the sorting. So when we're sorting as professional organisers are in our own homes, we have been bags that are appropriate, we have been bags that we know exactly where they're going, we have boxes to sort things into, those are the kinds of things that you would do in the planning process, a lot of people go to a room start to declutter and have nowhere to put the stuff they have no bags to put things into, they have no boxes to put into that is where the planning is absolutely critical. Make sure that you've got all your cleaning equipment at the planning stage, make sure you've got your bin bags at the planning stage. So that when you get start sorting, then you've actually got what you need. And so that's why it's all wrapped up in this big cycle of success.

Ingrid  15:56  
So let's move on unless you to the next step in our cycle of success, which is store, isn't it?

Lesley  16:02  
Yeah, storage is an interesting one. Again, a mistake. You know, right at the beginning of the podcast, I mentioned that a lot of people jump in at the storage, because that is the kind of, that's where I want to get to, I want to get to everything been, you know, gathered, like with light, I want everything to be together, I want everything to have a place a place for everything and everything that's placed. That's where your mind naturally goes to, because that's where you want to be. And you forget about all the things that comes before that. And we naturally jumped to the nice, pretty boxes, even to the large plastic boxes in the garage to the new shelving units. That's where our mind goes, because we believe a lot of us that storage is the answer to the decluttering dilemma, don't we, if we get more storage, more boxes to put our stuff into that is going to fix the problem. And what we're saying is ignore storage completely. until after you've made your decluttering decisions. After those volumes have gone, that's when you start to think about storage. Because at that point, then you can get appropriate storage, you can get storage for the stuff that you're keeping, you know exactly what you're dealing with, you know how much stuff you've kept, you know what type of stuff it is, you know where it's going to fit, how big the box is, and what size the boxes are going to be and what you actually need. You can't make decisions about storage. Sometimes you can, but rarely, before you've embarked on a decluttering project. Storage has to come at this point, don't jump in early to the storage. There's one thing that you learn through this whole podcast, it's hanging back on the storage. How many times have we seen that happening? Read Yeah,

Ingrid  17:38  
all the time. And it's so tempting because when you go to these lovely places, and it can be in IKEA, it can be in homebase it can be a target can be a Walmart, it doesn't really matter. And you see all these lovely books, anything that is perfect for my stuff. So it's so tempting to go, I know I don't have the patience for these beautiful boxes. But this is where I'm going to put it in when I've created the space. But we say you need to sort like with like you need to sort you need to categorise, you need to declutter, then you need to decide where is this item going to live in my house in which room in which drawer in which shelf? And then you go right, do I need? Or do I have a good box for it already? Or do I have something that's not up to scratch? And do I replace it for something else? And do I need to buy something new, but we can tell you 90 out of 100 times there is something around your house that you can use. And I think it was on the maybe on the Facebook group this morning. Actually, I can't remember. But somebody said I actually had a perfect unit in my garage, that I hadn't even realised I could use it now it just seems to be the perfect unit for exactly in my Understairs cupboard. And it was just the perfect example of exactly what we're talking about.

Lesley  19:05  
Yeah, it's a bit of a chicken and an egg situation, isn't it? Because we often do have the perfect story solution. But often it's full of stuff already. So we have boxes, but they're they're full of stuff. And so we need to declutter first so that we empty the box so we can use the box for something else. And so, you know, when you get to decluttering, the storage boxes, that's when you've really made progress, isn't it Ingrid? That's like, Yes, finally, all these boxes that I've had before, have no longer got stuff in them. And now I can declutter the actual storage. And so what we would say is if you find storage boxes along the way, while you're decluttering, definitely keep hold of them until you've done your whole house because they probably will come in useful somewhere. And it's useful to have that choice, isn't it? But don't go out and buy new at this stage unless it's absolutely critical. And somebody has identified where those apps are in your house. So storage is kind of emotive Isn't it because it's what everybody loves and what everybody wants to do, but it's not what the best thing he needs to do, actually what we need to be focused on. Is downsizing the amount of stuff that we've got effectively, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I mean,

Ingrid  20:09  
by all means, take a temporary storage solution taken and tissue box converted an empty Amazon box into a temporary storage into an iPhone box. They're really great too for for containerization in a drawer, you something you have, and then later go out and get that nice, perfect box that you have in mind.

Lesley  20:32  
Definitely. So just to recap on where how far we've gone round our cycle of success. Yeah, we're kind of like, you know, two thirds of the way through now, aren't we England, we're doing very, very well. So we've planned the project, we've got started really, really important. And people have got, of course, you've got to start the project, but the amount of people who stop at the planning stage and don't get to the starting. So then we get to the ask, we've got the simple questions that we've put in front of you. We know it's more complicated than that. But actually, at some point, we have to ask those questions. And we have to make some decisions. It's important to sort like with like, at this stage, we're thinking about what's going where what's getting donated, what's getting recycled, what's going to a different room, and so on. Then we get to the nice fun bit that everybody loves, which is storage. And then Ingrid, we move on to the next part of our cycle of success, which is,

Ingrid  21:21  
so it's move Lesley. So this is the moment when you're going to put stuff away in the room where you're working. This is where you put it in the drawer in the cupboard, in your wall cupboard, under your bedside storage, whatever you decide, you need to move your items in the right place. Now, they're probably also items that you've decided should no longer be in that room, they need to be moved to other rooms in the house where they're going to be kept. Or you might even have a couple of beanbags for recycling and donating, they're going to go out in your recycling bins or into your car to be dropped off at the recycling centre. So this is kind of the next stage is all about moving things to the place where they need to go.

Lesley  22:08  
Yeah, and this is when all of a sudden the kind of the calm is starting to come in our project, isn't it, all of a sudden, we're changing that chaos to calm. We talked about the fact that it gets worse before it gets better. At this stage, once we've decided what storage we're going to use, and we've started to move things out of the room, I move things and put things away in the room. That's when all of a sudden our decluttering and organising project is really starting to take shape a look like it's getting to the end points. But we do have a really important part of the cycle of success that we need to do that we Ingrid, before we get to the end, which is

Ingrid  22:44  
we need to finish it up. That can be hovering the room where you've been working, wiping some of the sides where you've been doing your sorting, and that might have become a little bit dusty. It might be putting away your glass or your jug of water that you've been using. While you've been decluttering has been a hot day you've been drinking some water, it's putting away all these last little final bits to make sure that the room looks and feels like it's a finished article or your cupboard feels like it's a finished article. It's a little bit of cleaning, that hoovering closing the curtains closing the wind, whatever you need to do is finishing up.

Lesley  23:27  
Yeah, really important. When you've done a complete decluttering project from start to finish, obviously, we get the finished article. Now, there are going to be many, many decluttering projects that span several weeks, or even several months on in grid. And so part of the finishing part of the process may not be to get to that completely finished product. It may be to put everything away so that when you come back to that project, you know where you got up to. So it's really important as well, if you're not at the end of a project to actually do some finishing up to remind yourself of where you've been. So this might be labelling things to say This bit has been sorted. If it's a paperwork project, it might be this is the stuff that's going to be recycled or shredded. Those kinds of things, put little notes, stack things up, put the sorts of things at one side of the room and the unsorted things at the other side of the room. Every room and every project is different. But what you need to know that if all of a sudden even though you are planning to come back to that project tomorrow, life gets in the way and you don't come back to it in two weeks time. You don't forget everything that you did and have to go back to square one. So really, really important that even if your project is not 100% finished, that you need to remind yourself away you've got up to really important.

Ingrid  24:42  
It might also be Lesley I've got I was thinking while you were chatting I was thinking yes it might also be writing a list. Because maybe while you've been decluttering and sorting and organising, you might have felt yourself, oh, I need to have that drawer repainted or that thing needs to be fixed that I've seen In or I need to check the battery of my smoke, there are all these thoughts that go through your head while you're being busy, have a notepad there to write these things down. So it doesn't kind of as soon as you close the door or the cupboard door, you think, Okay, that's all gone, you can just write it all down, make a little list yourself, so you know exactly where you're at. So

Lesley  25:24  
in grid, we have done seven out of eight parts of the cycle of success. So what's the final one?

Ingrid  25:33  
Enjoy it enjoy Lesley, be proud of yourself, this is the moment where you go, Yes, I did it. This is good. And listeners, please, it doesn't have to be a full room, you can give yourself on the back. If you've done one drawer, okay, we're not talking the whole transformations of all houses here. If you've done a very, very tricky cupboard or drawer, and you're like, Yes, I'm so happy, this is great, I can find everything again, give yourself a pat on the back. And enjoy that moment, don't just kind of rush off to the next thing, kind of take that five seconds and go. Great job well done me, let's move on. Really be kind to yourself.

Lesley  26:18  
I think it's so important, angry that you say that because people are hot and dry. You know, it's obvious and so on. But it's really important because what that then does is it powers your willpower motivation gives you that motivation to continue on your decluttering journey. We're all about breaking things down, as you know, into these drawers, cupboards, whatever sometimes might do a bigger project, but in general break things down. But you need to be motivated and inspired to carry on. And that's where the finishing and the enjoyment comes in. If your room is still chaotic and not completely finished, don't leave it make sure you go back to it. Before you move on to the next project. That's when we keep we pick up different projects because we never quite get finished. And so there's all these unfinished projects all around the house. And it doesn't give fill us with that. You know what I did that that room looks amazing. And you need that to motivate you, don't you? So it's a very, very critical part of the cycle, the kind of finishing and enjoyment part of it, which spurs you on to go back to the beginning of the cycle for the next little project and plan the next one.

Ingrid  27:25  
You know, I think it's so easy to kind of go, Oh, look at all the things I haven't done. No. Let's talk about what we have done. Look at what I've accomplished today. This is great. Because it's so easy when we to kind of be negative about ourselves, I still haven't done this, I haven't done that. Hold on a minute, you've done a great job, and you've done that drawer fantastic work. I'm going to use all I've learned now to plan my next project. And then you're going to get better and better at it. And you're going to be able to do more and more. So celebrate those wins.

Lesley  28:00  
And Ingrid, I do this every single day when I'm working with clients. And I'm sure that you do we follow the same process every single time, whether we're doing a huge project, or whether we're doing one draw at a time. This is the cycle that we follow. And this is where we have success with our clients. And so think about where you're falling short. Have you been that person that always jumps to storage? Have you been that person never quite gets finished? Have you been that person that doesn't do the correct planning and you just jumped straight in. Really think about where you've fallen short on your decluttering cycle?

Ingrid  28:34  
Well, that is amazing, Lesley. So I hope our graphic that we've given to you on declutter hub.com forward slash cycle. I hope that's helpful for you because I think it can help you see our cycle, and then kind of fit in all the steps that we've talked about.

Lesley  28:50  
So yeah, go and grab that graphic, print it off, if you need it to give yourself the kind of visual cue that quite often a lot of us need to get us through. Really useful if you want to delve a little bit deeper, we have a lovely webinar available for you called the three key ingredients for decluttering success. And so we we we tackle the three things that we think are the most important things that you need for decluttering success. So if you need that extra bit of umph, then go and check out. Our webinar is available all the time. So it's not a live webinar, so you can watch it whenever you like at your convenience, and the place that you can find that is Declutter. hub.com forward slash three as in the number three hyphen, ingredients. So Declutter. hook.com, forward slash three hyphen ingredients. And I know Ingrid's going to drop that into the show notes as well. So she'll drop the URL for the cycle of success graphic and also the free webinar.

Ingrid  29:48  
Yes, listeners. So that's it for this episode. We hope you've enjoyed listening to our cycle of success, and that you're ready to take action. So maybe your next job start to plan your next project. So let us know in the Facebook group we've got the Facebook group the declutter hub community with decluttering tips would listen in Ingrid. So come and find us and share with us your before and after pictures or share with us your plan. We would love to know this. Now if you want to know more about our membership, have a look at the members dot declutter help.com To find out more. If you don't want to miss our next podcast subscribe the difficult to hack podcast and we'll come at you notifications each Friday. So thank you so much for listening, and we'll see you next time.

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Mary says:

29 May 2021 at 8:24 PM

fabulous advice.

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1. Lesley Spellman says:
  
  1 June 2021 at 8:24 PM
  
  fabulous advice.
  
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Episode 344 – Helen Flanagan talks clutter, ADHD and managing a home with a young family

Episode 343 – Dealing with the passage of time when decluttering

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