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Episode 358 – Ingrid and Lesley go hypothetical

It’s Ingrid and Lesley go global week and we have had some incredible guests sharing their decluttering expertise this week to celebrate the North American launch of our book, Reset Your Home so we thought we’d take it down a notch (several notches in fact) and have some fun. It’s time for Lesley and I to go hypothetical. 5 questions you never knew you needed answering by your podcast hosts.
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Speaker 1  00:00
It's Ingrid and Lesley Go Global week, and we've had some incredible guests sharing their decluttering expertise this week to celebrate the North American launch of our book reset your home. So we thought we'd take you down a notch, well, several notches, in fact, and have some fun. It's time for Lesley and I to go hypothetical, five questions you never knew you needed answering by your podcast hosts.

Speaker 2  00:39
You're listening to the declutterable podcast, bringing you tried and tested no nonsense tips and advice from the leading experts in decluttering and organizing your home. Now here are your hosts Ingrid Jansen and Lesley Spellman.

Speaker 1  01:02
Hello and welcome listeners. I'm Ingrid and I'm Lesley. If you're new to the declutter hub podcast, you're so welcome. What you'll find is that we try and find a fun factor in the serious business of decluttering, and if you've been here for a while, you know exactly what we mean. So thank you so much for listening.

Speaker 3  01:21
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Speaker 1  01:41
Lesley, Gosh, what a week. What a week. We've had so many amazing guests on our podcast for England and let's see Go Global week. But of course, we also wanted to do a podcast for our lovely listeners right in this important week that we are having with the launch of our researcher whole book in North America. I mean, what an honor it is to be now published authors around the world. Let's be honest. Yeah, it's super

Speaker 3  02:11
exciting. So the US and Canada have been waiting for so long. They've been waiting for like, four months, haven't they? For the 24th of June publication Australia and New Zealand. Not that we knew about it. We heard very last minute, published two or three weeks ago, right? So they were already got it. So if you're in Australia and New Zealand, you can buy it today, no problem. So, but we wanted to be in on the action, didn't we? Ingrid? And I know when we did our Ingrid and Lesley week, which we did when it was the UK publication of our books, probably, but people told us that they liked the podcast where we did 10 fun things that you didn't know about Ingrid and Lesley. So we thought we'd continue on in that vein. Let me tell you, today has been one of the longest podcasts that we've ever had to prepare, because Ingrid's not quite tuned in to how hypothetical fun questions really work might go into as we go through it. So I think we're getting there.

Speaker 1  03:11
I think I'm just too sick. I'm just too serious. Lesley, I took it all too serious, these hypothetical questions, hypothetical

Speaker 3  03:18
fun questions, you're not supposed to say the exact thing. You know what I mean. So anyway, so I think we're there, but it's taken quite a long way. So it was a sense of frustration Ingrid, what were you like?

Speaker 1  03:34
I know. I just, I think maybe I'm just too serious, or something on my Dutch like, act normal, then you're crazy enough. Kind of thing solely came through there because we've got this saying in Holland which says, act normal because then you're crazy enough. So like, Don't go, like, have all these kind of, you know, just the ideas above your station. So maybe the hypothetical situation at the beginning kind of was lost on me, a little bit lost in translation. I'm

Speaker 3  04:04
just going to give you one example before we get into the real hypothetical questions. So as an example, so I said, so the question was, if you were going to be a kitchen appliance, which kitchen appliance would you be? So I go, Oh, I'm going to be a microwave. Because it's it's quick, and you get quick results. You can go in. Quick Fix, done, sorted. You get it Ingrid, well, I want to be a washing machine because it cleans the clothes nicely and you get no stains. I'm like, we're not saying, what appliance Do you like in your kitchen? This is like, what one would you be? So that basically was the tone of it. So we ditched the appliance, because, ing, we couldn't think of a fun answer, what answer? So we're going to go on to the actual ones. That was a little bonus one, right? But that just gives you, if I found a little bit of frustration, that's where we're at, business partner, very

Speaker 1  04:57
best, right? So we're going to start with Wanda. I completely got immediately, and that is, if you had to eat only one cuisine for the rest of your life, what would it be? Lesley,

Speaker 3  05:14
it's a tough one, really tough. And it is a question, you know, it's one of those hypothetical questions that you get asked all the time, right? What's your favorite food and what you know, if you could only have one for the rest of your life, what would it be? And so I think I'm going to have to go for something that's healthy generally, and that has got quite a lot of versatility within the actual cuisine itself. So I'm going to go Japanese.

Speaker 1  05:41
That is very sensible. That would have not entered my even entered my top 10. Lesley, of all the things

05:49
in your top 10, no, well, you don't like ramen and sushi. And no,

Speaker 1  05:55
I like ramen. I don't like sushi. Maybe that's but so I associate Japanese food with sushi, and that's the one thing I don't like, Is the rice. I love all the raw fish. I'm like, bring it to me now. But the the rice in the sushi is like, am I to the despair of my son, who absolutely loves sushi? You can wake him up for it. I'm like, No, I've tried it and tried it and tried it, I just don't see the benefit of

Speaker 3  06:23
it. I just think it's so much more than sushi. I love Japanese, yeah, but maybe Japanese, I'm not necessarily thinking about sushi, although that would form a part of it. That's quite natural. I haven't been to Japan

Speaker 1  06:36
yet. Lesley, that's on my bucket list. As you remember from our previous conversation, Japan is on my bucket list, so maybe i That's why I need to go to Japan and eat all of the but I love ramen. That is true. Love ramen and noodles.

Speaker 3  06:50
You know, ramens? Yes, there's so much. So I'm going, I'm going down the Japanese route because I'm going healthy and versatile. Yeah.

Speaker 1  07:02
Well, I'm going to, uh, well, depends on how you eat it, of course. But my cue, the first thing that popped to do on my mind before two other ones that really it was difficult to choose, but it has to be Italian. It has to be Italian. Oh my gosh. I absolutely love all the, I mean, you know, because we my sister, I went on holiday with my sister to Italy, very long. I mean, we met multiple times. But one time we were in this all inclusive resort where the kind of the grandmother of the family was in the kitchen, and she still made all of the pasta. So we had the all of the different types, including the like the the black pasta, like spaghetti type. And, of course, each past has its own source. I was in food heaven. Let me tell you, I just love everything about it. I just love and I also love the pizzas and all of the things, but all the different pastas with the different sauces, and, oh, it gives you a

Speaker 3  07:58
lot of versatility as well Italian. It's a good choice. It's a good choice, yeah, because you can go healthy on Italian as well, even though it doesn't sound like you're going down that route with owing passes. Okay, to be fair, she's all into the creamy sauces the garbage. Yeah, there are other things there. Yeah, no. But I think what would be my second choice might be Indian. I do love Indian. I love Asia, everything Asian, right? So I love Asian food in general. So it would definitely be over that side of the world. Definitely. For

Speaker 1  08:26
me, my second choice is definitely French cuisine, definitely. But the answer with you, My husband loves Asian food. So Indonesian food, and he could eat rice and things like that for breakfast, lunch and dinner, he would be very, happy. So when we went on honeymoon to Bali, he was like, I am in heaven. I mean, apart from the lovely weather in a nice hotel and all of that, and being married to me and of course, but no, nevermind.

Speaker 3  08:53
I think you know interestingly French, even though I know it's the basis for so many cuisines around the world, if I went to a French restaurant, that would probably be my really low on the list, because it's all a bit rich for me. Do you know what I mean, like, bit, you know, stereotypical French food. You know what I mean? It's all a little bit rich. And so that would be low on my list. That would be very low on my list, actually, although I do get that French food is the kind of That's crazy to say that, isn't it, but it's very rich, isn't

09:20
it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So we started

Speaker 3  09:23
one that Ingrid could answer, so we're okay. We're in business. The second one we did have some problem with, so I might tell you our alternative answer is because, but let's we talk. We're going. We're going. Fun, Ingrid, fun. Yeah, fun. Out the box thinking, yes,

Speaker 1  09:37
okay, so yeah, I misunderstood this. I'm not gonna lie. It says, if you weren't a professional organizer, what would you be? So I took this far too literal. I went, Well, I would be a facilities manager, because that's what I was before I was a professional organizer. And Lesley, when you're again missing the point, Ingrid, you're missing the point. Oh, then he.

Speaker 3  09:59
Dreaming, dreaming of what, what life could have been like if you didn't go down the path that you're in at the moment. I would like to be facilities manager. Facilities Manager, it's not exactly the first thing that rolls up, not there's anything wrong with being a facilities manager. It's actually a really fun job. It's like a dream job, is it? But I got on board,

Speaker 1  10:19
I got on board, and I just I knew what, and then I kind of said, and you said something that I did not expect, but were actually quite similar, which what, I think that made me laugh the hardest, because, Lesley, what do you want to be if you weren't a professional organizer? I mean,

Speaker 3  10:36
I know that it's probably not a career, but if there's one thing that I say, because I'm let me, let me, let me give you a bit of context. I'm completely obsessed with, like police sort of police Camera Action type drop reality police shows, you know, where they show what goes on behind the scenes, 24 hours in police custody, and even dramas, police dramas, line of duty, all that kind of thing. I'm all over it, right? So I love a bit of reality. But what I feel, I feel like I've got a bit of a power thing. And so what I'd like is, you know that those people who go with the armed response units to to, like, go into drug dens and stuff like that, and there's one person who has the battering ram, so his sole purpose, probably a man, it could be a woman as well, is to batter the door down and shout, Oh, please. That's the job that I want. I literally, I just feel like it's like a power thing be amazing, like you're, you're creating this ability for, you know, for all the people, all those armed police officers, very serious armed police officers, the helmets and everything, and you're there with your battering ram, just making that happen. Love that. You

Speaker 1  11:39
know what? I actually so just for clarity here, I did say to Lesley that the person with the battery wrap is probably also a very well trained police person with a helmet and and weaponry and stuff like this. He just happens to have the battery wrap. But yeah, it made me laugh, because actually my job would also be a police officer, not necessarily the person with the battery RAM. That has not occurred to me, but yeah, when I grew up, I wanted to be a police officer, yeah?

Speaker 3  12:10
Like, what kind of police officer you can't just be a police officer? No, yeah, to be specific, Ingrid, like, it's a lot, like, what? Like the superintendent, a detective, a Bobby on the beat. Like, what kind

Speaker 1  12:22
of, yeah, I would, I really saw myself as somebody that on the streets, that would like in the community, that would, you know, talk to people and tell young kids off that they were dropping litter on the floor.

Speaker 3  12:35
Thing, like a Community Support Officer, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Really, would you be are you? I don't know, really, I'm not sure about that. I think you've go down the kind of telling people off for breaking the law a little bit too. Literally, yeah, would there be enough nuance in it? I'm a bit nervous about that. That's

Speaker 1  12:53
the reason why I didn't get admitted to the police academy. Lesley, I think for me, it was just Hi,

12:58
did you try? Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1  13:00
oh, wow, I actually I applied. So I had two roads that I was like, I need to have my options. So one was, okay, I would like to try and go into the police academy. Or one was, I would like to go in hotel and hospitality, that kind of thing. So

Speaker 3  13:16
yeah, and why did you say no? Probably because

Speaker 1  13:19
I'm just too as you know, I'm too black and white for me. Gray is is tricky.

Speaker 3  13:27
So could be a police officer and you went down the facilities manager route, yeah. And now you're a professional organizer. I know, drug podcaster, stroke membership owner, drug stroke author. Actually, I know it's good author, but I bet you I bet you never thought you're going to be an author. Did you no Exactly?

Speaker 1  13:42
Exactly? That's for sure. That's for sure. Oh my gosh. I must admit, I do enjoy these questions actually, because you know, and I hope you do two listeners, because you already know a lot about us. But who would have known that Lesley wanted to be an armed police officer with a battery grant.

Speaker 3  14:04
It's quite sinister, really, isn't it, you know? But I am completely obsessed. I'm completely upset with police and prisons same, right? I just, I'm just, I don't know, I just, but I wouldn't want to be a prison officer. That's, that's too hard. Or actually, police officers very hard as well. When I got into it, I'd be like, Oh no, this is too hard behind my desk. Just talking about decluttering is a much easier route. Yeah, but yeah, I know

Speaker 1  14:32
you do. You watch a lot of reality and stuff like that. I don't really watch that, but I do love a good crime series and a line of duty, of course, as well. Goliath was amazing. Bosch, you know Netflix. I mean, there's so many great Day of the Jackal when they transfer their appearance. I mean, it's like all like, amazing, isn't it? So I would always watch that over anything else. I'm not really into I know we're going off topic here, but things like. Horror or something, I would be far too

Speaker 3  15:01
afraid. I think, you know, there's a real pattern to the kinds of things that I like, really. So you know that I love a podcast, but I love a podcast that's autobiographical or biographical about somebody. So I love interview podcasts, where you learn about people. I like reality TV because I like learning about the people, even though sometimes they go a little bit too far and are quite unethical. To be fair. I like things like 24 hours in police, because I like to understand the process that the people go through. So everything that I do is about the kind of emotional connection or the process. So, you know, documentaries. I like documentaries on things as well. So that would be my go to reality TV is a bit of a kind of, you know, guilty pleasure. But documentaries, but would we might, you know, real life go to and true crime documentaries as well as that. I love all that

Speaker 1  15:46
kind of fascinating, fascinating, definitely, right? Well, let's do one more of that, just because we, because we can, right. Okay. Lesley, so if you could instantly master one hobby or skill, what would you choose?

16:04
I would be a professional dancer.

16:09
Can you not dance at all? No,

Speaker 3  16:12
I got thrown out of ballet class, apparently. I mean, I don't know. My mom told me this. I need to delve deeper. But she's not around anymore to ask her. Now I'm like, I really want to delve deep into why I got thrown out. Why did, why she didn't fight for me. You know, like fire gotta be in a ballet dancer. But

Speaker 1  16:30
did you? Did you not do like, ballroom lessons when you were 12, 1314, thrown

Speaker 3  16:34
out at three years old and never returned again to dancing. I've never done any dancing since. The only thing I did with my mother in law when I was about 22 which is she was Irish, we did a line dancing together. That was the only thing I don't even like dancing that much. You're like, I actually don't. I'm not really a dancer. So I don't know why I want to be a dancer. You know, if I, if I went to, like a nightclub or something, I wouldn't choose to dance. And so I'm not quite sure, but I just think it's a really nice kind of exotic, you know. So if I wasn't using the battering ram, I'd like to be Diane Buswell from Strictly Come

Speaker 1  17:18
down. Well, I know, you know, because I've done so much dancing, like I did, you know, gymnastics, and that morphed into jazz ballet, and that moved, it morphed into ballroom dancing, so quick step and Tango and Cha, cha, cha, and I did rock and roll and tango dancing, as everybody knows. And then I've always loved, I would be the first one on the dance floor like at any party, because I absolutely love it. So I just, I hadn't considered that people would like not dance.

Speaker 3  17:50
I was a bit rubbish, really, as a child on any on everything. I'm not gonna lie, I don't think I had any skills. Do you know what I did? No, I did as a child. This is kind of quite bizarre. And people think this is quite strange. So because, you know, I told you, I lived in a vicarage and everything. My grand, my grandparents were, you know, kind of in the clergy. And so they talked. They took it to elocution lessons. Oh, yeah, so I that was where I get my Dorset tones. So I think they wanted to kind of wipe the Lancashire accent out of me, and it's like, so not gone, has it? It's like, there. So, yeah, I went to elocution lessons. That's the only thing that I did really as a child, you didn't do all the after school things. I mean, you obviously did. We still wasn't the same. Now, you can do anything. You kids do all kinds of things. There wasn't, there wasn't stuff like after school, apart from Rounders and football and netball, that was the only thing I was rubbish at sport. The only thing I could do is run fast. I could do 100 meters back in the day. So I was quite good at that. But other than that, I was absolutely rubbish at everything, everything, honestly and even at school. The only thing I could do was translate things from one language to another. That was good at. How bad is that?

Speaker 1  19:02
Now you're good at so many things. What like? What like, everything that we like with running the business. I'm like, you know, like you, do you? Do you like to do everything.

Speaker 3  19:12
I've got no skills, and I've got no, you know, I'm not, I don't really, I'm not really interested in the news. I literally, I live my life in reality TV and podcasts talking about people, if it's not about people and emotional connection, I'm not interested. Just switch off straight away. That's maybe why the battering ram would be a good option. But yeah, you probably got to think and be creative to be a dancer as well. But yeah, so I would like to be a dancer.

Speaker 1  19:39
Well, let me tell you what I would love, hobby or skill. I would love to be able to play an instrument, and specifically the saxophone. Oh yes, I just find it such an amazing instrument and so but I've never been blessed with learning how to read notes. It that completely. Went past me. So although I was singing, I was dancing, reading notes, which, while my sister learned to play the the flute, she could did the guitar for a while, but this the fact that I had to read music to be able to do these things. I was like, I'm out, but I would love to, because there was this, there's this Dutch saxophonist called candy dolphin, and She's world famous, and she played with Prince on one of his albums, and she played with, I mean, several, like, world known celebrities. She went on tour with Prince. And I thought, how cool is that, this Dutch girl with this saxophone, and she's like, traveling the world. So yeah, if I could play an instrument, that would be the one my kids both played, the clarinet, bass clarinet. We actually have a saxophone here downstairs in my living room, because Max kind of dabbled in trying to play it for a little bit, and it's been kind of humming and hung if she wants to learn. But it wouldn't even occur to me to pick it up and try it, because it's like, so far out of my comfort zone. But if I could overnight do one thing that will be like

Speaker 3  21:09
you're talking about things being out to be comfort zone. You've literally just started tennis, and you're throwing yourself around the tennis court like a crazy thing at the moment, and can't walk for five days. So I think have taken yourself out of your comfort zone with your tennis that you started later in life. So I know saxophone seems a little bit of an easier undertaking than hitting the doubles at Bexley Heath tennis club.

Speaker 1  21:37
Oh my gosh, I love it so much less. I know people are like, who know me are like, you're like, the most un sporty person we know, because I absolutely hate running, and I really mean aid, running, walking, cycling, skiing, but running is, like, I've never, even when I was young, I couldn't do it. I would just start and think I'll go for a run. And then after, like, I hadn't even, like, left my block, and I was like, Why was this a good idea? So, yeah, so I've never been super sporty. That all went to my sister. So I got the dancing and I got the singing, she got the music and the sports. And honestly, so people are like, what you what you're, you're, you're playing tennis, really. And I absolutely love it. I just can't even tell you about it, but yeah, it's great. Oh my gosh, Lesley, I'm like, all a bit like, hot and flustered from this whole situation. So let's go for a break and we got some more for you, so see you soon. Hi everyone. Welcome back after your little break. Wow. Okay, Lesley, I know I'm getting a little bit worried here, to be honest, because, you know, we've, we've not spoken a word about decluttering. So people who might tune in for the very first time are probably going, I thought this was a decluttering podcast. What on earth is happening here? Spoiler alert, we won't be talking about

Speaker 3  22:55
decluttering on this podcast. This is a little bit of fun, but we have done it once before this year as well, but it seems to go down quite well. So basically, this is a the ramblings of Ingrid and Lesley in Ingrid and Lesley Go Global week. So we hope that you're strapped in for the ride, because we've given you a lot of really, really good content with our fantastic interviews with Tracy and Amy this week. How cool were they Ingrid? How lucky are we to be able to have such fabulous piece people on the podcast? It was so much fun, but that's that's all in the past now Ingrid, and now we need to get to the real heart of the matter and talk about our hypothetical I can't even get my words out hypothetical questions. And so this was an interesting one as well. And so it just tells you the difference between England and knife and being honest. So what a famous person, dead or alive would you want to be and why?

Speaker 1  23:49
Well, this actually was a harder question than I thought. Well, you said it straight away. I know. I know you did. I know, God, the washing

Speaker 3  23:58
machine was hard. This was not immediately you said who you wanted it to

Speaker 1  24:03
be, true, true, and then you came with your answer, and I was like, Oh, wow, maybe I should have gone like a complete like Mother Teresa or something, or Gandhi, or, you know, like a famous explorer or Albert. I did

Speaker 3  24:20
give you an opportunity to rethink your answer, but you wanted to stick with that. I know it's a good one.

Speaker 1  24:26
I'm staying so my famous person that I would love to be dead or alive is Julia Roberts. And actually, I love Julia Roberts so much that Anne's second name my daughter is Julia. Oh, really. Oh,

Speaker 3  24:43
that's interesting. I mean, she's just fabulous, though, isn't she just mean. And I think we've kind of grew up a little bit on pretty woman as well. And it's just like a fan favorite, isn't it? You know? I mean, it's such a feel good film, isn't it? Do you know what I mean, on so many levels. And so we fell in love with Julia Roberts, probably. Young, Pretty Woman, and then she's done some incredible work since I do get it, and she's very beautiful. I

Speaker 1  25:05
know she's got like she's beautiful, she comes across like She's really nice. She's like, the face of Chanel, you know, doing all these amazing, you know, commercials and her jewelry, but still, she's not all the time in the limelight either. You know she's not, you're not being would it? That wouldn't suit you. But I really you know she's like, and I love she's gone such a diverse career, like Erin Brockovich is like, such an amazing movie. I mean, there's so many that she's done that I'm thinking, amazing. Yeah, it started all with pretty woman, but all of the other movies as well, so many that I thought,

Speaker 3  25:51
Oh, is it the beauty? Is it the acting? Is it the body of work? Is it the fact that she's nice? What is it that draws you to Julia Roberts, just

Speaker 1  26:00
all of the above, honestly, like she's she's like, complete package, like she seems so nice, and she's beautiful, and she can act amazingly. Oh my gosh, yeah. Julia Robert without a shadow, without Lesley.

Speaker 3  26:14
Julia Roberts, do you want to know who Matt Well, you know who mine is, don't you? Because we, we did have a discussion about it before. So I think mine, on balance, is the queen, queen. I mean, Queen Elizabeth, right, yeah. So, because I think that the royal family, who I love, actually, so I am, I am quite a royalist, I think. And whether you are or not, I think she's had such an incredible life where, you know, she's done so many things, and I think she maintained her discretion, as she had to do in the royal family. And it's one of those only, it's one of the only places now where we don't really get an insight into what's going on and so, and obviously, we've watched things like the crown, and I'd love to really know what was going on, but, you know, we've seen it, and we think that the crown is actually real life. The crown is definitely what happened. And so I just think, you know, the people that she's met, the things that she's done, the decisions that she's made, the decades that she's lived through, the troubles that she's had, you know, she's an incredible woman with a fantastic life, you know, and a sad loss, actually, when we lost her. But I just think how interesting would her life have been? And I'd love to be behind the scenes to see what that what that was. So the queen is mine, wow.

Speaker 1  27:34
I mean, amazing. You know, of course, we've got the royal family as well in the Netherlands. So I've always been quite a royalist as well. So for me, when I started living here in the UK, is 17 years ago. I think it is now. You know, it's like, I just, I love all the the pageantry around it. I love, I don't know, just the way she the way she carried herself is, like, totally awe inspiring, yeah, and how she was just so and how, how hard her job and her life must have been at times as well. Because, of course, people, you know, she travels, she said money, but like every family, they've got troubles and they've got problems and they've got things going on. It's no different than anybody else, but to to be in that spotlight for such a long time, and to, yeah, in my opinion, do do so much good and be so interested. And she was such an amazing person for always showing up and always being interested in other people and being so well prepared, she always came across very well prepared. And I I really appreciate that. Yeah, for sure, yeah, definitely,

Speaker 3  28:50
really, really interesting. I think, you know, whatever you think about the royal family, and you know whether you love them or loathe them, think they should be here or not. You know you I think when the Queen died, there was definitely a sense that she did her duty. You know, she was given that lot to do. She didn't choose it, did she? And she did her duty to the best of her ability. And, you know, I admire her for that, but I think you know, so there's that element to it I admire as a person, it's the people that she's met, the conversations that she's had, and what kind of happened behind the scenes, because I'm always interested to know the actual real gossip. You know what I mean? Elements, a

Speaker 1  29:32
little sneak peek behind the curtain. Lesley, exactly.

Speaker 3  29:36
So that's my person. So did I tell you that I I went, I think you know this. So I was on the mall. I know you were on the Mall quite recently because you went for the VE Day, the 80th, 80th anniversary of VE Day celebrations, didn't you? So you went to see a lot of pageantry on the Mall near Bucha palace. A few weeks ago, I was down there when I was 12 years old for Charles. And Diana's wedding. So I camped out on the Mall overnight to watch the royal wedding in 1981 I think it was, and honestly, it was one of, like, the best things, you know, things were different, though, back in the you know, you just left your stuff at the side of the road and went across to watch the fireworks in Green Park, and it was all chilled, and your space was there when you come back. I mean, now it's like a military operation, isn't it together, you'll be there for like, 72 hours before, and stuff like that. So yeah, it's a little bit different now. But yeah, one of my real childhood highlights, and I went with my auntie, so real, real highlight for me. So I think that's was sowed the seeds of me being a complete royalist, I think so. Yeah. So that's my person, the Queen and Julia Roberts in another life, who we could have been. Yes,

Speaker 1  30:48
yes, yes. Oh my gosh. Lizzy, well, I'm loving this so, but we got one more. We got one more for you. Okay, so if you could have any superpower for 24 hours. What would it be?

31:06
Well, you do yours then first, okay, well,

Speaker 1  31:08
that was, I think, quite an easy, well, easy one for me. I immediately went, Yeah, that's the one I would love to time travel. Could you imagine just going back in time and go to when Queen Victoria was still alive and they were like, doing up the Houses of Parliament and the building the big band, or to go back to the Golden Age and see all the VOC ships travel. Or go to seeing the castles being built, or go to the, you know, the times from bridgerton, like the Regency times, with all the poofy dresses and the and then four

Speaker 3  31:50
hours, though, so you can't see kind of built like, I feel like, No, I know. I know two years or whatever. You've only got 24 hours, so you're gonna, it's the speedy trip.

Speaker 1  31:58
I know this is a speedy trip. I would love, I would love to go to the Roaring 20s, and therefore, like a flapper dress, I would love to, you know, do disco in the in the 70s, because I still feel that I was born too late. I'm a total fan of disco. I mean, so many things, Lesley, you know, so many things that I it's absolutely fascinating, you know, going back to maybe Roman or Greek times, the seal, the temples, and how the pyramids, you know, in when, how they build them. And, ah, wow, how good it be. A busy 24 hours. Let me tell you, I've got about, I've got about 10 minutes per like slot, there's

Speaker 3  32:35
the pyramid school, oop, yeah, there's a castle being built. Whoops Off we go to do a night, hour flap address. So, yeah, no, no, I say, just to be fair, I think time travel is a fantastic one. And I think on balance, that would be my choice, but because you chose it first, I'll let you have it. And so I am actually going to choose, like, invisibility. And I don't know whether that's because I'm like, nosy and want to see what people are saying about me, or if it's for good purposes, I'd like to think it would be for good purposes where you could have an impact on somebody by being as being invisible and kind of like direct operations from behind the scene. Do you know what I mean? I think being invisible might be good, but I know a lot of people, when they talk about invisibility, it comes at a price, doesn't it? It's only for 24 hours, though. So I think I'd like to be invisible.

Speaker 1  33:24
I think you just want to listen and eavesdrops from other people. That's what I think, how you want to do.

Speaker 3  33:32
But I'm trying to spin it in a positive frame, a positive light. But actually, I just want to listen to other people. I've got to say, yeah. Just think it'd be really fascinating, wouldn't it, because we

Speaker 1  33:42
would do you like so do you like Harry Potter then, because he had an invisibility cloak? Is that kind of, is that where the idea comes from?

Speaker 3  33:50
I've never watched Harry Potter. Ah, well, I That's a lie. Actually, I went, I went with Nathan when he was a child, and fell asleep in the cinema, and then I've never watched it since you've

Speaker 1  34:02
never read the books. No, oh my, this is like, this is number six. It's a podcast, shocking things that we didn't know about each other. Wow. How can I how

Speaker 3  34:15
all those things loaded the recipe I told you we've said so many times, this relationship should not work in any way, shape or form, but it totally does. Yeah, I'm not into all of that kind of I'm not into science fiction. I'm not into what I don't even know what it's called, you know, like that Harry Potter or Lord of the

Speaker 1  34:35
ring. You're not into Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Marvel No,

Speaker 3  34:40
none of it. I would, I would pay you to watch it. No, no, I don't mind. I watch any of those things. I mean, I might have had to watch some of them when I've taught my kids as cinema. Probably fell asleep, to be fair. Do you know what I mean? Just doesn't interest me, that sort of stuff. What do they call it like? What's it? Call it? Name. Isn't that genre a film?

Speaker 1  35:02
Yeah, is it more like sci fi? Is that what you mean? Oh, sci

Speaker 3  35:06
fi? Yeah, sci fi. I definitely don't like, but I just don't even know what it's called. You know, kind of Lord of the Rings, let's go, yeah, you'll watch all the time. You should know what it's called,

Speaker 1  35:17
yeah, but I can't think of what like the name, but I love seeing them all like all, I know I haven't read the lord of Rings books, but I've seen all of the films. We even have the books are downstairs. I've now just finished a second lot of watching all the marvels. And no third time, third time, we watched all the marvels, like, all of them in order, like, from the beginning. I

Speaker 3  35:39
think it takes a lot of a lot of effort, you know, to

Speaker 1  35:42
i Oh, gosh, it's so amazing. I honestly, I must admit, though I did like Star Trek, I did like Star Wars, Marvel never really grabbed me, and then it was locked down, and we had nothing else to do. And I said, Right, okay, well, let me watch Iron Man, because that's the first Marvel, and let me see what it's all about. And I honestly, within 10 minutes, was hooked, hooked. And now, when there's new Marvel ad, we're like, poof. We're like, going to the cinema, or we're trying to, yeah, I watched all the spin off series, like, Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 3  36:17
One last question. Then not a hypothetical. You've got one favorite film ever?

Speaker 1  36:25
Oh, that's, that's easy, The Shawshank Redemption, okay? Morgan Freeman. Because Morgan Freeman is my favorite actor. That's like Julie Roberts. Yeah, you have Julia Roberts in the female and then Morgan Freeman. And of course, the whole show, I've seen it. I can't even tell you how many times I've seen it. I can see and I can see if you say to me, let's take the afternoon off and let's watch the film. It will be the show Secretary, I love

Speaker 3  36:48
it. I'll be not with you on that.

Speaker 1  36:53
So what's your favorite film? Then meet the parents.

Speaker 3  36:58
Meet the Parents. Have you not even watched it? I don't think so. Oh, stop it. Stop it. You have to. It's the funniest film ever. She's writing down. You never see Owen Wilson, and what's his name? Boy's name, it's now. So

Speaker 1  37:19
I know, because that's how, that's how, that's our menopause brain lesson that we can't exactly

Speaker 3  37:26
remember, like our favorite film. Can't remember the, like, main actor in it, or whatever, stop the stop the recording and Google it. Yeah, so Meet the Parents versus the Shaw shank, redemption, redemption. Julie Roberts versus the Queen, dancing or playing the saxophone, both want to be police officers and Japanese versus Italian, we are officially chalk and cheese. Yes, yes. And so what has that got to do with reset your homing grid?

Speaker 1  37:59
Absolutely nothing, but I've totally loved recording this podcast. And you know what? I think it's really you know, many, many people have listened to us for a very long time, and they all want to know stuff from us, right? They want, maybe not, maybe you actually want to know all this stuff. Or is it just because we we enjoyed recording it that made it fun. But, I mean, Wowsers, this is episode 358, right? So, and still, we can find stuff to talk about. And I still find out stuff about Lesley, like the fact that she's never even watched already Harry Potter. I mean, mind boggling. Let's be honest. Are you

Speaker 3  38:40
disappointed? Have you got disappointed face on for that?

Speaker 1  38:43
Well, I have to take time to let it sink in. Yeah,

Speaker 3  38:50
that's it. Business Partner. Business Partnership over. Yeah. Anyway, we need to get serious now. It is Ingrid and Lesley Go Global week, and we are here talking in absolute gibberish and nonsense for the first time this week, because we've had given you two fantastic podcasts with Amy and Tracy so far. So today we thought it was time for gibberish and time for a little bit of light hearted fun and so but we are here to celebrate the launch. I've reset your home in the US and Canada. Our book did really well in the UK. It's doing really well in Australia and New Zealand, and we would love nothing more than it to do well, of course, in the US and Canada, where we've got such a strong following and have since the beginning of the podcast. We We love having such a fantastic global audience. We feel very privileged. We feel very kind of grateful every day. It's what makes things interesting for us, that we've got people from all over the world. So we just wanted to do this week to celebrate you, to celebrate the launch of the book, and to bring our teachings to you. So we'd love you to support us. If you've not bought the book already and so many of you love. People from North America. I've already bought it from the UK months ago anyway, but if you haven't, it's there. It's available on the 24th of June, which I think is tomorrow. Go out and buy it, please, and make our book a success, because that's what we would absolutely love. So we've got loads of podcasts that we did back in February about what the book is all about. So if you've got, if you don't know what it's all about, pop back and listen to those podcasts as well. So we don't have to repeat ourselves. But basically, it is a culmination of everything that we've done and more in the last 357 episodes of our podcast, minus the ones where we talk about ourselves, right?

Speaker 1  40:37
Absolutely. Lesley, we appreciate you listeners tuning in, week in, week out, to our podcast so much, and we absolutely love it that you're here, um, giving us ideas, responding, leaving comments, and of course, please follow us, subscribe, leave a review and all of those things, and make sure that you tune in tomorrow and Friday for the rest of podcasts from Ingrid and Lesley global week, because tomorrow we have, for the third time coming, Matt Paxton, who is such a great guest on our show, and we asked him to come and Join us for a conversation. And Lesley honestly, did an amazing podcast with Matt, and on Friday, we have a very special guest, and that is Gretchen Rubin. So tune in to both of these episodes. We couldn't be more delighted to bring this to you in this week. And of course, don't forget to check out our book on declutter hub.com. Forward slash book. You will find all the details there. But for now, thanks so much for being here.

Speaker 2  41:56
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25 June 2025 at 4:21 PM

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