A graphic saying Happy New Year Welcome to an organised 2020
Episode 66 – Welcome to an organised 2020

In this podcast, we talk about how decluttering will undoubtedly be on people's New Year resolution list but needs a long term commitment. Here's to an organised 2020!
A clutter free house is something that we often aspire to and January gives us the opportunity to make a New Year's resolution that will help us achieve our goals. But is a New Year's resolution going to work long term. Ingrid and Lesley discuss what it takes to make this New Year's resolution of an organised 2020 work.
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Intro  0:07  
Welcome to today's episode of The declutter hope podcast, your channel for super easy, no nonsense advice on how to declutter and organise your home. Please welcome your host professional organisers, Ingrid Jansen, and Lesley Spellman.

Ingrid  0:30  
Hello, and welcome listeners to Episode 66 of the declutter hub podcasts. I'm Ingrid and I'm Lesley. If you have clutter and want to sort it out, this is the show for you. So listeners, we want to wish you a very Happy New Year and welcome to 2020 Lesley, Happy New Year.

Lesley  0:51  
Oh, thank you Happy New Year to you as well. Although I have to confess we have spoken already to be fair in the decade in the new decade. But yeah, it's a bit scary a new decade. It's feel a bit old. Isn't that depressing? To start the game like Oh, another decade? How many decades have I lived through? That's a lot because I was born at the end of the 60s. So I feel like I might be into my like seventh decade or something else really depressing isn't it? But anyway, I'm not gonna I'm not even gonna add it up. Yeah, my excited. Do you have a nice Christmas New Year them?

Ingrid  1:20  
I did I did you like my headband? Lesley, I've got my happy new year had been on the specific especially for you.

Lesley  1:28  
Thank you, you have you got a hat for every occasion? No, but I want to say that it's exactly the kind of thing that would just go in the bin for me

Ingrid  1:37  
award New Year's Eve show. I said I'm going to keep hold on of the vibe of a new year, new decades. I thought let me just do this for you.

Lesley  1:45  
Thank you, I feel honoured. We are here to talk about not festivities. We're here to talk about a new decade. And we're here to talk about, well, I don't want to call them new year's resolutions. But we are going to be thinking about changing things, aren't we? And I think that for a lot of people, particularly as people are listening to this podcast, they will tend to be people who do feel a little bit overwhelmed with clutter. So how is 2020 going to be different?

Ingrid  2:14  
Yes, definitely. In today's episode, we will be talking about how can you just make sure that 2020 will be the year you will get clutter free, and which you don't want your clutter to be another new year's resolution that's going to fail before the year has even started. So that's what we're going to talk about, aren't we, Lesley?

Lesley  2:33  
I think we should think of it more as a whole year resolution rather than a New Year's resolution. Because I think that's the problem, isn't it with new year's resolutions. We always think that a little bit of a quick fix somehow, we want to get it done dusted and out of the way by the end of January into February. And I think we really need to focus on decluttering for the whole year. And then beyond really, I'm not saying you need to be decluttering 365 days a year. Because obviously there's other things that we want to do in our lives apart from decluttering. But if you can get control of your house what that should free up his time to do other things, isn't it?

Ingrid  3:08  
Yes. I think that's a point very well made. Lesley I think with whatever new year's resolution or however you want to call it you've made for yourself, it can't be done in a week. It's I think you're right, I think it is a whole year resolution and not something that you can focus on for a week and then go right, I focused on it, it's done. And I move on to the next thing. It requires a lot more than that, doesn't it? And we know this from experience. Do and

Lesley  3:35  
every let's go back to the New Year's resolution, every resolution that we make is something that's going to take us out of our comfort zone. And it's going to require additional effort and decluttering is definitely part of that as well. Why is it so hard for so many people? So for some people, we've talked about this many, many times. For some people, they're like, what's your problem? Why can you not declutter your house? It's easy. It's not rocket science. But then for the rest of us, it is rocket science. And it is hard. And it is something that we really need to battle against to make happen. So for some people, it's fine in the same way that people don't have a problem with the weights. They're absolutely fine. They can eat what they want, they can do what they want. And they still said that's absolutely fine. People are different. And there are some things that some people excel at, and there are some things that people find more difficult. And so for obviously, a lot of our listeners decluttering is something that they do find difficult. So we're here to try and help. So why is it typically so difficult to declutter?

Ingrid  4:32  
I think because maybe a lot of people have not been taught how to declutter that they just don't know how to do it.

Lesley  4:41  
Yeah, definitely. I think that goes back to you know, we sit all the time, don't we with people who live in reasonably cluttered houses, who are like I've told my son to go and clean his bedroom, but he's just not doing it. Well, that's because a he's not seeing it happen every day and be you've not broken it down into manageable chunks. him, so to say to a child who's got a hugely untidy bedroom, go and tidy a room, it's a big mammoth task, isn't it, we need to break it down, go and hide that bedside table, go and take all the things off the floor, go make your bed, go make sure that you've brought all the cups and plates and things down. So we need to, we can't just say clean your room. So to a child to say clean your room is like saying to us go clean your house and declutter it. It's a big job, isn't it and easily broken down? So I think sometimes it's about breaking things down into manageable chunks, isn't it? And so that that overwhelming task becomes more manageable and more sort of easy to work through? Yeah.

Ingrid  5:41  
And I also think, why should so overwhelming is because we are, we kind of maybe say to ourselves, okay, I am going to break it down in manageable tasks, I'm going to do the kitchen, but I'm like, that is still like a huge job. If you only if you don't, you need to break that down even much, much further. So it does become manageable. And you probably have to maybe start making a list for yourself and go, Okay, so what kind of task does that mean? Okay, I'm going to have to empty the dishwasher, I'm gonna have to do the washing up, I'm gonna have to look at my cutlery. And I have to look at my plates and my Tupperware and my herbs. And so you have to the tasks, I think that people try to do are so big, that they lose track of what they were doing in the first place. I think that's also part of it, why it's so overwhelming.

Lesley  6:40  
I think it's kind of building up to something, isn't it as well. So I can't sit here and say so we go out and work with people all the time, we're not doing things in 15 minute manageable chunks whole time, we are undertaking a big task, like a whole kitchen, or a whole bedroom or her wardrobe or a garage or a loft. And so interspersed within your manageable chunks of things, there are going to need to be bigger days where you set aside a whole day to do something that can't really be broken down into manageable chunks. If that makes sense. I think that's really important to know as well. So we always talk about breaking it down. But I think it's almost to build yourself up, break it down into manageable chunks, to get yourself to feel motivated to move you on to the next task and the next task and the next task. And then at some point, you're going to say, right, okay, I'm ready to tackle a kitchen. And actually, I've already done my junk drawer, I've already done my spices. So actually, it's not a mammoth task, because I know that there are certain things that I've already covered. But actually there will be you know, if you're doing a garage, you can't really do it to be fair, in manageable chunks, you've just got to go for it. So there are things that are going to involve longer days. But don't start with that. Because that's where you get demotivated isn't it, you've got to start with something easy. And then you sort of build yourself up, don't you all the time, you're like, Oh, that wasn't so difficult. Back in November, we did our random acts of decluttering challenge, which was smaller manageable chunks. Now for some people, those manageable chunks, were 10 minutes. So for some people, they could get their utensils drawer done in 10 minutes. For other people, it was two hours. And so it very much depends on how much you've got, what the quantities are, what the volumes are, and things like that. So what a manageable chunk is to one person is very different to the next person. Clutter is very, very different to different people. And only you know what you've got to do to get over that. So I think that's part of the problem. That's why it's so overwhelming. Because we view it as a whole house, I need to sort out my house, too big, too big an undertaking. You need to break it down, you need to split it down, and you need to work very, very gradually to get all of the different components in order really.

Ingrid  8:49  
I think it's also Lesley, when you look at like all the magazines and articles now that are coming out with new year's resolutions. It's all about, oh, just do 10 minutes. Oh, just you know, and it's like, but it's not 10 minutes, you know, let's let's get that mess out of here. Now. It is not 10 minutes, you know, when even when you want to do a manageable chunk, you're probably gonna have to spend maybe half an hour or 45 minutes or maybe even an hour sometimes to free up time. It's not 10 minutes here or there that will get you from a very cluttered house to a house that is not so cluttered and you feel happy in.

Lesley  9:28  
I think that's the thing. You know, that's where magazines kind of let us down a little bit. Really, what the 10 Minute says is, is maintenance that's maintenance. Yeah, because we constantly need to be decluttering. So, you know, going back to the challenge again, when I did my utensils draw, it was a 10 minute job. But that's because mother utensils, Joyce not that cluttered, it just needed to be taken out cleaned, skim a few things off we go. And that's what you would expect from us you would expect us not to have tonnes and tonnes of clutter.

Ingrid  9:57  
And I think also to be He To be frank, a lot of people think that decluttering is short terms of time. While it's exactly what you're saying the decluttering itself involves a smaller and larger projects, but the maintenance, that's what needs, that's how to keep your house on track. Those are the 1015 Minute jobs you can do. You know, it's the same thing with the washing up. If you do the washing up daily, it computers going to cost you 10 or 15 minutes. If you save it up for a week, you're there an hour and 15 minutes trying to scrape dried fruit up plates, and it takes forever. So I think that's I think a really important message that we want to bring across to our listeners is like, you need to schedule time for this, this is not a quick fix, just same as losing weight is not a quick fix, you start with let's look at one or two pounds, not let's start with 10 kilos. Exactly. And

Lesley  10:57  
I think the other thing that comes into play a lot, you know, certainly with all our listeners, our members, anybody in our communities, people that we work with any kind of change like that requires a huge amount of focus, positivity, positive mindset. And so many people have got things that happen in their lives, which take them away from that positive mindset, depression, anxiety, fibromyalgia, disabilities. Now, those are the sort of difficult things that people have got to deal with. And even if you're completely switched on, and you want to do it, sometimes things stand in the way. And your positive mindset that you had when you woke up in the morning is gone. And so you know, we have to factor that in as well. And so don't give yourself too big a task, you know, break it down and make it manageable. So you know what, I do really struggle, I struggle with my tiredness, I struggle at this time of the day, I'm going to do it, I'm going to just focus on doing one thing a week. And that's going to be my goal, you know, make these goals manageable within your current lifestyle. Yes, I

Ingrid  12:00  
think so true. I mean, of course, if you have a job, part time or full time, if you've got several kids who you take care of house, life is busy, you know, and the divers get full. So it's about a conscious decision about, you know what, I am going to schedule this in my diary. And yes, it's very tempting to meet my friend every day for a coffee or go out for a walk every day. But maybe I should just say one of those days, I'm not going to do that, I actually am going to go home. And I am going to focus on my house. And I am going to spend every Thursday morning between nine and 12. Doing you know changing the beds and doing a lot of laundry and doing the washing up. And also I'm going to look at a decluttering task at that point. So you make it instead of yeah, I'll do that another day. I'll get around to it someday. Yeah, whenever I got time, nobody's got time you make time, we all have the same 24 hours in the day. And the thing is, you lose so much time through clutter. And I think that's the massive benefit. As soon as people start to think about I am going to focus on my decluttering how much time they went back. And that is just amazing to see that somebody that time almost seems to appear. Wow, I don't spend every half an hour in the morning, trying to find my keys, my purse, the shoes, the backpack from the kids and stuff that I need to bring into work or whatever. It's all there where it's supposed to be. So you start to call back time in tremendous chunks. Yeah, you're

Lesley  13:40  
absolutely right. There are so many pulls on time, Arlen and I was having a chat with a client the other day, and she was saying, I just have not got time. And I sort of said to her, you know, if you really want this to happen, you have to choose to spend that time, it's got to be a choice. Because we do of course we struggle. You know, you and I are busy people too. But we make our homes and keeping them orderly, quite high on the list of priorities because we know that saves us time in the long run. And it just makes for a more positive environment around us. That works like clockwork. And we have to do that to be able to do everything else, don't we?

Ingrid  14:17  
Yes. Because we you know, we are super busy people as well. And somebody said to me the other day, oh my gosh, how do you get everything done? And it's because because my house is super organised. And because we aren't are on top of things. And we've got all this knowledge that we just want to share with other people so they can reap the benefits of that as well.

Lesley  14:37  
Definitely. So we talked about why it's difficult. I want this to be a positive podcast. Yeah, because it's all been a bit like Oh, it's so hard. It's so hard and we know that and it is overwhelming. And you've got to change your mindset round to focus time and energy and effort into decluttering if you want to free up that time and Energy at the end of the week at the end of the month at the end of the year. But it's very difficult one of the one thing that we find all the time with our members, you know, people in our group is it's retaining focus, isn't it? So how do you retain focus from the beginning of the task to the end,

Ingrid  15:17  
I think it's really important to be aware of the space and the flow you're in and not get sidetracked by something else. So you retain focus by being focused on the job at hand. And as soon as you find yourself drifting off to another room or in your head to another place, you need to kind of go, No, this is what I was doing. I was doing the clothes, or I was looking at the books, I'm not looking at the toys, I'm looking at the books, or I'm doing the kitchen utensils, and I'm going to or maybe even setting an alarm on your phone, 10 minutes, or 15 or 20 minutes, I'm going to focus on this and then see, okay, the task is not completely done, I'm gonna set my timer for another 10 minutes. So I can then finish the job. And I think if you focus on one thing at a time, instead of running around, back and forth, you will get much more done. And then you can kind of get that nice feeling for yourself almost like yes, a green tick, I've ticked it on my list, I've done it, I've completed it, instead of oh, I've walked off and done five other things. But the things I originally was doing is still not done.

Lesley  16:27  
Exactly. So focus is absolutely essential, as is preparation as well. So you need to prepare your mind for the task ahead, you need to prepare your space, you need to prepare your body we talk about all these things all the time, preparation of any project is absolutely critical, isn't it? And so we need to make sure that we thought about what we're doing. And we don't just randomly sort of jump into it. And so yeah, it's really important. And you know, that focus, I think is where you know, when we're working with clients all the time, that's what we do, we don't move away from the task that we're doing. So if we find things that belong in other rooms, we put them in a box, we take them at the end of the session, yeah. And then we'll go and sit there. So we're not just all that belongs in there. Even with our clients, we don't even it's not that we don't let them out of the room. Suddenly send them off in a client said that belongs in your son's bedroom, go and take that there because the client will then become distracted. So it's very much retaining that focus on the task in hand, because we know what happens, you start on one test that there's a pen, let me go and put it in the kitchen where it belongs. And then you go to the kitchen, you open the kitchen join, you're like, oh, this needs decluttering. Now, so the next thing you're working on the kitchen drawer, and then you forget about what you were doing before. So it's really, really important to retain that focus. And the reason is, so that you can get the job done, as Ingrid very rightly said, so you can get to the end of it. Give yourself a green tick and be motivated on to the next one. You have to fulfil and complete that cycle of going round getting started getting finished thinking about storage, organising things, looking at what you've decluttered enjoying what you've created. And sitting back and thinking giving yourself a pat on the back right and ready to go again and that neck are ready to go again might be next day. It might be next week. It might be next month. But you feel motivated, because you see that is that sense of achievement, isn't it?

Ingrid  18:14  
Yes, absolutely. Lesley and I think we have a right to be proud of ourselves if we do something good. You know, we get told all the time in everywhere. You know, we should be slimmer and prettier and thinner and tidier. And let's just do the positive and go you know what? It might be the tiniest drawer, but I did it. How awesome is this? And that is such a great motivate them to go. What shall I do next? Oh, let me now look at my socks. Something else in your house and finish that job. Definitely pat yourself on the back. Maybe you have something in mind that if you do five successful little decluttering projects, you can do something that you've been wanting to do. Or maybe you want to give yourself a reward for decluttering a room, make it a positive experience,

Lesley  19:06  
to know what the interesting thing you say about that about rewarding yourself and stuff. And of course, that's something that a lot of people do. But what I find is that the joy of retail therapy and bringing something into the house that a lot of our clients, or the people that we work with have got beforehand is surpassed by the joy that they get by taking stuff out at the house at the end. And so it kind of goes through a complete shift, doesn't it? So people like Oh, I love buying things and it's really really lovely to buy all these things and all of a sudden, they're like, I love the feeling of donating things for charity shop, giving things to to a primary school, whatever that looks like gives them a much nicer feeling than actually buying stuff. And so then got the shopping bit of it thrown in as well. It stops you from shopping as well or it makes you be a little bit more intentional with this kind of things that you buy in. And so sometimes a lot of people are so happy with The way that the house looks now they don't need to even reward themselves because the reward is there in terms of how it makes you feel, and how it makes your home tick.

Ingrid  20:08  
But I think also whatever with a reward, I definitely don't mean stuff. But it could be that you've been meaning to get your, your haircut for ages. But because you haven't shopped several things that you were planning to buy, maybe you can now treat yourself to a lovely hairdressing appointment, or you can have your nails done, or you want to have a massage you've been meaning for ages to do. So those can also be Fanta, it doesn't have to be stuff that for sure. For sure.

Lesley  20:36  
Exactly, exactly. So I think we've we've talked quite a lot about the kind of things that are going to set you up almost for success in 2020. Haven't we really critical? We're right there with you. We absolutely want this decade this year to be let's not hope it takes 10 years to be a bit depressing. Are we still gonna be here in 10 years, Ingrid. And bearing in mind that I've already done seven decades or whatever. Yeah, so we're here for success in 2020. So what sort of things? Do you need to set yourself up for success?

Ingrid  21:10  
Well, I think you need lots of Lesley and Ingrid in your life if they that's what you need. We love motivating people don't wait. Yes, we love motivating people.

Lesley  21:23  
Yeah, no, you're right. When we do think that it's kind of weird, isn't it to say that, but we do think that we think that we help go away?

Ingrid  21:29  
Yeah, yeah.

Lesley  21:33  
We hope that we help, you know, so it's just trying to listen to the podcast, you know, so many people are putting the podcasts on. While they're decluttering. You know, we've we've pretty much covered everything in the house now, I think. So if you if you're sitting there and you're looking at stationery, or if you're looking at your garage, or your loft, or your bedroom or your medication or whatever that might be somewhere within our resources, there's going to be something that can help. And the podcast is definitely going to spur you on. So really, really think about that.

Ingrid  22:02  
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, 66 podcasts and counting two to choose from with us in your ear. And we had a lovely review. Didn't we Lesley about somebody who said, I've listened to all your podcasts. And now I have to wait to every Friday until the next one comes in. What do I do without my BFFs? In my ear every day?

Lesley  22:22  
Excite plan. I know, that's so nice. Oh, we love that, don't we? I mean, we love doing that. Honestly, I think we would still do them if we thought that no one was listening. Just so that we can wear like New Year hats and Christmas hats and just get genuinely get excited. So yeah, listen to the podcast, we've got loads of resources on there. So if you're a paper person, you know, print off some of our checklists to help you there's resources, there's guides and things like that on there as well. Sign up for our challenges. Of course, there will be more challenges in 2020. In fact, we have a challenge dieting on Monday.

Ingrid  22:58  
I know I know, we're so I'm so excited. I love doing. The challenges have just been so fab last year. And we just absolutely love doing them. We did the wardrobe decluttering challenge, we did the random act of decluttering, which was a fantastic success. So many people who got on board in our challenge and just started sharing photos. So we can't I can't wait to do another challenge. I love them. Especially also because I can do Facebook Lives Lesley and I love Facebook Lives as you know,

Lesley  23:26  
I know Don't forget we did the 40 days 40 items challenge as well back in February, March last year. And we also don't know you forget about these things. And then we also did the May wardrobe challenge as well remember, yeah, so we've done I think we did four or five challenges last year, all of them went down great. And all of them saw lots of things going out of people's houses. And the biggest thing is there was lots of lightbulb moments from people like oh, this is not too hard, actually, when I'm inspired and motivated by somebody, when I've got a community of like minded people around me. Those are the kinds of things that are gonna keep me on task. And that's the important thing, isn't it?

Ingrid  24:05  
I know I can't believe it. You know, we're starting on Monday again. It's so great. I'm really looking forward to that. Absolutely. So if you if you haven't signed up for a challenge yet make sure you do that before Monday. I mean you can join in later but you want to be there from the start right. And you're all motivated because it's a new decade and a new year. So what better way to start on the sixth of January when everybody's back to work and back to school and to go I want to do a challenge I'm going to hang out with Lesley Ingrid for the week and I want to get some of this stuff out of this

Lesley  24:35  
house. Yes, sign up we want to see you there.

Ingrid  24:39  
Yeah. And of course Lesley if anybody's listening and thinking you know what a challenge sounds fabulous but I really really need some more help with my house a really want to tackle far more areas and five areas. Why not have a look at the membership? Check out members dot declutter hub.com for all the information about our membership because We got so much love information and so much more to give than than the random challenge alone. So definitely have a look there. So Lesley, what can people find in a membership?

Lesley  25:10  
Well, we've got step by step courses. So what we do, what we typically do really in the membership with our step by step courses is we go through every single component, don't we? So we talk about the emotions that stop us from decluttering things, you know, all those things that you're like, oh, yeah, of course, that's me. So we really drill down into the emotional connection that you've got with your stuff, and try and think that through. So England, I look when we're working one to one with people that we can really focus in on people's emotions, but we try and cover all those emotions within the courses. And that's really, really critical. We talk about decluttering, we talk about the simple questions, you know, do you need it to use it? You know, that's simple, you can do that on your own, but then there are much much deeper questions. And we so we go much deeper in terms of the decluttering questions that we ask. We talk about categorising, we talk about organ, organising things, we suggest storage solutions, and we talk about places to donate things. So those step by step courses can be done whenever you want. And so it's not done in a kind of challenge timescale scenario. So you just do those, whenever you feel ready, you can take it one lesson at a time, you can break it down into manageable chunks, there's Look, people are having massive amounts of successes, we've got bedroom courses in there, you've got medication, we've got bathroom, we've got all different courses in there that you can, that you can go through step by step, in terms of what you get from Ingrid and I, every two weeks, we do a q&a session live. So we live stream with the two of us on camera, people submit their questions in advance, and we get an opportunity dealt with to really, again, really drill down and focus on people's individual problems. So this is not generic stuff. This is very detailed stuff that we go into. We're trying to help you. And we have a community as well within there, where all the members talk to each other about the things that they're going through. And we chip in all time with our thoughts as well. And it's actually super, super cheap. It's literally like, I don't know, it works out like 10 pounds a month. You know, really it's like a couple of cups of coffee to get your life back on track, isn't it? So check that out. If you really, really want to go for it in 2020. The members area is definitely definitely going to help you.

Ingrid  27:16  
Absolutely. And you know, you've just mentioned a few things. But in the membership, we've got the quick wins as well. We've got extra resources, more even more resources in the member site. So much good stuff all for you. With our inputs. We really want your success in 2020. That's our aim that you can enjoy your house with less stuff and more freedom in your head.

Lesley  27:44  
Definitely, definitely. So have you gotten to New Year's resolutions?

Ingrid  27:49  
Have I got any new year's resolutions? Interestingly enough, I really don't make New Year's resolutions. But I always make the resolution to have a really good time. And go on holiday. Yeah.

Lesley  28:02  
How is that different to 2019? Yeah. Well,

Ingrid  28:06  
I think maybe because I consciously think to myself, I know this sounds a bit morbid, but I'm always like, you know what, I only live once, I really want to make sure I have a really good time I spend it with people that I love and that I like. And if people are negative, I'm sorry, I don't have time for you. Because I've got so much to positivity to share and things that I want to do. And I want to help others. And yeah, so I've really make the conscious that sounds really crazy. But I made a conscious decision to have another really good year, and to go on some holidays that I really wanted to. So I try not to spend a lot of money on stuff. But I really, really want to enjoy all summer holidays. And it doesn't even mean I have to go far. I mean, we go camping in France every year. We love it. So and I don't even like camping. So there you go. But my whole family loves it. The kids love it. So yeah, so that's my thing. That I think how can I make sure that I again in the new year that's coming up? Have a great time? How about you, Lesley,

Lesley  29:06  
I think I'm gonna steal that one. I think that's such a nice one. You know, it's just a such a positive message, isn't it? It's mean. So yeah, and I think it kind of links into what I was thinking, which is all about balance, really. So 2019 was a kind of a busy year for you and I wasn't it so I'm not gonna lie, a balance went skew that a few times, didn't it? In terms of the kind of work life balance, we really need to focus on giving you guys what you need, giving our clients what they need in our own individual businesses, but also spending time with family and friends and did go a little bit off kilter at times in the year. So we know so it's not that, you know, so we don't have a problem with clutter, but we still have a problem with a lack of time, and where we're focusing our energy in the wrong areas and things like that. And so what I like about new year on September the same is it gives you an opportunity to have a quick reset and read and think again, doesn't it? So for some people that'll be during a holiday or whatever, but for me you You know that January 1 is definitely right. Okay, what went well in 2019? And what can I do better in 2020? And how do I need to make that happen? So yeah, really, really focusing on balance, I think is the what is the one for me in 2020?

Ingrid  30:14  
Well, you know, the thing is, honestly, although we work together a lot, I had a really good time with spending time with you so. So for me, although we did work like crazy, but it was so much fun, though, and I wouldn't have changed for the world. So that I think I really enjoyed it. So then when I look back, I think you know, what, we, I might have worked a lot, but it was time, I think, really well spent. And I just love chatting into this microphone every week to our lovely listeners, and just to read the review. So please write a review. If you enjoy this podcast, we just love chatting to you. Do share the love with us. So cheer review with us. If you think you know what I love listening to these ladies in the funny accents, chats about all this funny stuff and decluttering and mindfulness and, and doing all of that we just love hanging out with you. We really, really do. I think, for me, it's never you know, I could say, oh, maybe want to do a dry January or I want to lose weight or I don't think you know what, I just wanna have a good time. Life's too short.

Lesley  31:17  
I think that's the thing. You know, so far, we're kind of, you know, a couple years into the declutter business nearly 18 months. So also, and I think it's really important that we still enjoy it, because as soon as we stop enjoying it, then that's gonna come across to the listeners, isn't it? But we, honestly, we are really a no, we don't we know we talk about the members area. And I know that's something that you need to pay for. But we're fully invested in you. And because we know that we can, with a little bit investment from your part, we know that we can make a massive difference, don't we, England, and that's why we're like, please come and join us. We want you to join us, so we can make a difference. So anyway, I think we need to wrap up now before we start getting all effervescent about our lovely listeners again.

Ingrid  32:01  
Oh, ever, ever, ever vision I can't even say? What's that

Lesley  32:05  
mean? stuff on it. You know what we taught talking again, about all the reviews that we get, I can guarantee in every review that we ever get the accents come out. Oh my god. We really don't. I'm just glad that you can understand that. That's a benefit isn't a bonus.

Ingrid  32:27  
But I just still don't know whatever vision means

Lesley  32:29  
visiting Uber with excitement. So FSN is you know, when you have like a glass of water and you put one of those fizzing tablets into it, so that's effervescent.

Ingrid  32:39  
Oh, I love that. That's me. I get really excited about things. Okay, so every vessel, okay, thank you, Lesley, a new word in my vocabulary, which is that's really helpful.

Lesley  32:51  
So 2020 2020 is definitely going to be the year that you started to say ion in the correct way.

Ingrid  32:59  
Okay, can you just pleased then stop saying rubbers instead of razors. Right, listeners lovely, lovely listeners. Thank you so much. That's it for this first episode of 2020. Oh, my goodness. We hope you've all enjoyed listening and are inspired to take action, because action is what it's all about. Check us out on members of Declutter. of.com. Check out the challenge that's coming up on Monday. And we just appreciate you for listening. And thank you so much for being here. And if you've enjoyed this podcast, like I said, do leave a review and tell us what you think about the show. If you'd like to get more tips and advice, please follow us on social media. We are on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook as at declutter hub, and we have a lovely supportive Facebook group where we chat all things clutter, you can search for the declutter hub community, we'd love to see you there. If you don't want to miss the next weekly episode, subscribe to the declutter hub podcast on Apple podcast, Spotify, Stitcher and iHeartRadio. And it will pop into your notifications each Friday. Happy New Year and see you next week. Bye.

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